Figurative Hilt ID

[A. G. Maisey]

No, this is not Ganesha, it is most probably intended as a representation of Jentayu (Jatayu).

[David]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

No, this is not Ganesha, it is most probably intended as a representation of Jentayu (Jatayu).

I always thought the long face looked more beak than trunk.
Any thoughts on origins Alan, or what, if any, dress this hilt would best serve?

[Rick]

I have to wonder if it would actually be used within the culture it originates from.
Would it not be considered as a bit over the top?

[David]

I don't know Rick. I don't think anyone has actually determines what culture it originates from so i don't know how to answer your question. If indeed it represents a Hindu concept than could it have originated in one of the Balinese enclaves in Madura? If it is a Hindu representation it doesn't seem over the top to me at all.
No one has commented on the material yet. What do you think, bone or antler?

[Rick]

I'll guess bone David. At the bottom of the handle is a ring which I think covers the marrow area.

[A. G. Maisey]

Looks like bone to me.

My guess is Madura, Sumenep work, and 1980's --- but if you say you got it previous to this David, well, just take it back to where you think reasonable.

It would perhaps sit best on something East Jawa/North Coast/Madura.

Yes, certainly Jentayu is Hindu, but the East Jawa/Madura carvers draw on all societies, cultures, periods for inspiration.

[Gustav]

For me, it's interesting to see the engraved "cracks", which imitate older ivory.
A good lesson.

[David]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Looks like bone to me.

My guess is Madura, Sumenep work, and 1980's --- but if you say you got it previous to this David, well, just take it back to where you think reasonable.

It would perhaps sit best on something East Jawa/North Coast/Madura.

Yes, certainly Jentayu is Hindu, but the East Jawa/Madura carvers draw on all societies, cultures, periods for inspiration.

Thanks Alan. No, i didn't acquire this until sometime around 2000. I had jus assumed it was from the 60s or 70s based upon the color and patina, but both those things can be faked to a certain extent, so your 80s attribution might well be correct.