Jimpul ex.collection W.O. Oldman

Dajak · 30th March 2006, 05:59 PM

Hi Barry the price is 340.00 dollar in euro s 285,00 so not to bad for the parang

But it is not an mandau.

A mandau is also made for headhunting and have an amount of magic and mystery is involved by making it without these things it is an Dyak sword and no mandau.

The one on ebay is not an mandau by the dayak rules this can be read page
79 headhunters and woodcarvers from Coppens

VANDOO · 30th March 2006, 09:42 PM

THE SUBJECT OF DAYAK WEAPONS SEEMS TO GET MORE COMPLICATED AND CONFUSING

I WAS NOT CLEAR ON WHAT A JIMPUL IS NOW I HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT A MANDAU IS

. IS IT A STYLE OF WEAPON CARRIED BY ONE GROUP, OR IS THE NAME ONLY GIVEN TO ANY TYPE OF SWORD THAT HAS TAKEN A HEAD. UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE THE REFRENCE QUOTED. I DID GET A BOOK ON DAYAK WEAPONS BUT IT IS IN GERMAN, NICE PICTURES NOW ALL I NEED IS A GERMAN TO READ IT TO ME

I THINK THE PARANG SOLD ON EBAY WAS NOT TOO BAD OF A DEAL AT THAT PRICE AS THEY ARE NOT COMMON AND ARE USED IN CEREMONYS , WEDINGS AND SHOWS BY THE DAYAKS THEMSELVES SO I DON'T CONSIDER THEM AS JUST FOR THE TOURIST MARKET. I SUSPECT IT WOULD NOT BE CHEAP TO PURCHASE ONE WITH THAT DEGREE OF WORKMANSHIP NEW IN BORNEO TODAY.

Dajak · 31st March 2006, 06:02 PM

Hi Barry wich book you have in german I might trade it for a english one if you like.

The "mandau" (parang) on ebay was a nice piece for that money . but it had not the intention t be as a gift or ceremonial weapon.

VANDOO · 1st April 2006, 03:52 AM

THE BOOK I HAVE IN GERMAN IS (MALEREI UND TECHNISCHE KUNSTE BEI DEN DAYAKS). BY A. R. HEIN ALSO WITH (INDONESICHE SCHWERTGRIFFE) BY W. HEIN. IT APPEARS TO BE A GOOD BOOK WITH LOTS OF DAYAK DESIGNS ESPECIALLY SHIELDS WITH SWORDS FROM BORNEO, NIAS AS WELL AS OTHER COUNTRYS AND ISLANDS IN THE REGION. I WOULD CERTIANLY TRADE FOR A COPY IN ENGLISH BUT CAN AT LEAST SEE A LARGE VARIETY OF THINGS DAYAK I HAD NOT SEEN BEFORE IT WAS NOT A CHEAP BOOK. I GOT IT RECENTLY ON EBAY FROM MANDAUKUDI AS MOST OF THE GOOD REFRENCES SEEM TO BE IN LANGUAGES OTHER THAN ENGLISH AND I HOPE I CAN PUZZLE IT OUT OVER TIME. IS IT A GOOD REFRENCE OR WOULD I BE BETTER OFF WITH SOMETHING ELSE?

Dajak · 1st April 2006, 05:44 AM

Hi Barry this is an good book and no translation in Enlish so I would keep it

But there is a nice catalogue from Coppens wich is a nice information book,
and the shelford plubication wich can be copyed .

30th March 2006, 05:59 PM	#1
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Barry the price is 340.00 dollar in euro s 285,00 so not to bad for the parang But it is not an mandau. A mandau is also made for headhunting and have an amount of magic and mystery is involved by making it without these things it is an Dyak sword and no mandau. The one on ebay is not an mandau by the dayak rules this can be read page 79 headhunters and woodcarvers from Coppens

30th March 2006, 09:42 PM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THE SUBJECT OF DAYAK WEAPONS SEEMS TO GET MORE COMPLICATED AND CONFUSING I WAS NOT CLEAR ON WHAT A JIMPUL IS NOW I HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT A MANDAU IS . IS IT A STYLE OF WEAPON CARRIED BY ONE GROUP, OR IS THE NAME ONLY GIVEN TO ANY TYPE OF SWORD THAT HAS TAKEN A HEAD. UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE THE REFRENCE QUOTED. I DID GET A BOOK ON DAYAK WEAPONS BUT IT IS IN GERMAN, NICE PICTURES NOW ALL I NEED IS A GERMAN TO READ IT TO ME I THINK THE PARANG SOLD ON EBAY WAS NOT TOO BAD OF A DEAL AT THAT PRICE AS THEY ARE NOT COMMON AND ARE USED IN CEREMONYS , WEDINGS AND SHOWS BY THE DAYAKS THEMSELVES SO I DON'T CONSIDER THEM AS JUST FOR THE TOURIST MARKET. I SUSPECT IT WOULD NOT BE CHEAP TO PURCHASE ONE WITH THAT DEGREE OF WORKMANSHIP NEW IN BORNEO TODAY.

31st March 2006, 06:02 PM	#3
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Barry wich book you have in german I might trade it for a english one if you like. The "mandau" (parang) on ebay was a nice piece for that money . but it had not the intention t be as a gift or ceremonial weapon.

1st April 2006, 03:52 AM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THE BOOK I HAVE IN GERMAN IS (MALEREI UND TECHNISCHE KUNSTE BEI DEN DAYAKS). BY A. R. HEIN ALSO WITH (INDONESICHE SCHWERTGRIFFE) BY W. HEIN. IT APPEARS TO BE A GOOD BOOK WITH LOTS OF DAYAK DESIGNS ESPECIALLY SHIELDS WITH SWORDS FROM BORNEO, NIAS AS WELL AS OTHER COUNTRYS AND ISLANDS IN THE REGION. I WOULD CERTIANLY TRADE FOR A COPY IN ENGLISH BUT CAN AT LEAST SEE A LARGE VARIETY OF THINGS DAYAK I HAD NOT SEEN BEFORE IT WAS NOT A CHEAP BOOK. I GOT IT RECENTLY ON EBAY FROM MANDAUKUDI AS MOST OF THE GOOD REFRENCES SEEM TO BE IN LANGUAGES OTHER THAN ENGLISH AND I HOPE I CAN PUZZLE IT OUT OVER TIME. IS IT A GOOD REFRENCE OR WOULD I BE BETTER OFF WITH SOMETHING ELSE?

1st April 2006, 05:44 AM	#5
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Barry this is an good book and no translation in Enlish so I would keep it But there is a nice catalogue from Coppens wich is a nice information book, and the shelford plubication wich can be copyed .