Sword for Identification

Sajen · 5th April 2018, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

It would be interesting to know exactly where these blades were sourced from; New World, or Old.

Here a quotation from Jim in the above given thread: "An article, "Machetes del Ejercito de Ultramar en Cuba y Puerto Rico" by Juan L. Calvo (Sept. 2006) shows one of these fabricated in Toledo in 1856 but attributed to Cuba as 'de Guanabacoa'."
I think it's nearby that they get worked partly in the old world and partly in the new world.

Regards,
Detlef

Kubur · 5th April 2018, 01:14 PM

Well Cuba Ok
but some of them are clearly South Morocco (until someone proves me that the scabbards are not Africans...)
So I prefer to say Spanish colonial...

ariel · 5th April 2018, 01:45 PM

I think Kubur may have a point here about the scabbards.
They look awfully African.
Similar scabbards were used in Ethiopia ( see Spring “African arms and armor”, plate 24). I am not familiar with anything similar in any Spanish- controlled culture.

Battara · 6th April 2018, 12:17 AM

Although scabbards being made in Africa could be a possibility, don't forget that a strong African influence from the descendants of African slaves was present and still exists in Cuba today.

5th April 2018, 01:14 PM	#2
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Well Cuba Ok but some of them are clearly South Morocco (until someone proves me that the scabbards are not Africans...) So I prefer to say Spanish colonial...

5th April 2018, 01:45 PM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I think Kubur may have a point here about the scabbards. They look awfully African. Similar scabbards were used in Ethiopia ( see Spring “African arms and armor”, plate 24). I am not familiar with anything similar in any Spanish- controlled culture.

6th April 2018, 12:17 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	Although scabbards being made in Africa could be a possibility, don't forget that a strong African influence from the descendants of African slaves was present and still exists in Cuba today.