Is this a common Arab Saif ?

Martin Lubojacky · 22nd March 2018, 09:39 AM

I think you have bought extra-piece of its kind Fernando. Congratulations.
I hope I may add picture of the similar sword I bought years ago from Artzi, to your thread. I think my blade was made in Arab country - there is some mark like "V" on it. Unfortunately I have only old photos on flash disc with me (on the top of it in a group with another sabres, - I can make another pictures/closeups - but in July earliest).
I think your blade is not chromed. Could possibly be nickeled. (But maybe also only highly polished.)

fernando · 22nd March 2018, 06:13 PM

I am extremely pleased i was not counting with such contribution from all of you Gentlemen.
May i add that:
I understand when Kubur says that there is a consistency between (the decoration of) hilts and scabbards.
And may i say that, definitely the blade is not chromed or nickled, but highly polished. I take it that my jeweler friend and the silver smith we went to straighten up the hilt langet would have noticed that. The first confirmed this morning that the blade is polished and the second has discussed with me the methods to "unpolish" it ...not to "unchrome" it.

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fernando · 22nd March 2018, 06:16 PM

Thank you for your kind words, Martin. What a nice set of swords you got there

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Martin Lubojacky · 22nd March 2018, 09:16 PM

Fernando, I would also be interested in some good "unpolishing methods". Maybe fine pemza powder mixed with oil or water ?

Tatyana Dianova · 23rd March 2018, 09:51 AM

Fernando: it is not a common Arabian Saif, but one of the best Saifs I have ever seen! A great sword, congratulations!
I would like to add my humble example to the thread since this thread shows many reference examples. What makes it specially interesting is a blade with yelman.
You may try for "unpolishing" a very fine sandpaper with 2000 grit or a 0000 steel wool.

fernando · 23rd March 2018, 01:22 PM

Thank you for your kind words and the pictures of your excelent example, Tatiana.
Thank you also for the unpolishing suggestions.
Martin's idea for wet/oiled pumice powder would be a different method.
Eventually my local silver smith also suggests steel wool or, as alternative, a (dishwashing) green scourer pad.
In any case, i am not yet ready for such adventure and for the meantime, will leave it as it is.

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Kubur · 23rd March 2018, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

In any case, i am not yet ready for such adventure and for the meantime, will leave it as it is.
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Yes i think you should let it as it is.
IMHO!!!

Kubur · 23rd March 2018, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tatyana Dianova

I would like to add my humble example to the thread since this thread shows many reference examples. What makes it specially interesting is a blade with yelman.

Your sword is very interesting, a combinaison of Yemeni and Zanzibari swords...
With an imported Indian / Afghan blade (these blades have a yelman).

Martin Lubojacky · 23rd March 2018, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tatyana Dianova

Fernando: it is not a common Arabian Saif, but one of the best Saifs I have ever seen! A great sword, congratulations!
I would like to add my humble example to the thread since this thread shows many reference examples. What makes it specially interesting is a blade with yelman.
You may try for "unpolishing" a very fine sandpaper with 2000 grit or a 0000 steel wool.

Hi Tatyana,
Dissadvantage of the fine sandpaper (e.g. 2000) is, that when/if its surface is choked - you are starting to polish (instead of unpolish). On the other side - if the paper is new, you risk scratches (even in the case of 2000 grit) visible from certain angles. That´s why the fine pumice stone powder on the wet/oily and soft mussy textile should be (only my opinion) more regardful and should give steadier result... I think

22nd March 2018, 09:39 AM	#1
Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 843	I think you have bought extra-piece of its kind Fernando. Congratulations. I hope I may add picture of the similar sword I bought years ago from Artzi, to your thread. I think my blade was made in Arab country - there is some mark like "V" on it. Unfortunately I have only old photos on flash disc with me (on the top of it in a group with another sabres, - I can make another pictures/closeups - but in July earliest). I think your blade is not chromed. Could possibly be nickeled. (But maybe also only highly polished.) Attached Images

22nd March 2018, 06:13 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	I am extremely pleased i was not counting with such contribution from all of you Gentlemen. May i add that: I understand when Kubur says that there is a consistency between (the decoration of) hilts and scabbards. And may i say that, definitely the blade is not chromed or nickled, but highly polished. I take it that my jeweler friend and the silver smith we went to straighten up the hilt langet would have noticed that. The first confirmed this morning that the blade is polished and the second has discussed with me the methods to "unpolish" it ...not to "unchrome" it. . Attached Images

23rd March 2018, 09:51 AM	#5
Tatyana Dianova Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 736	Fernando: it is not a common Arabian Saif, but one of the best Saifs I have ever seen! A great sword, congratulations! I would like to add my humble example to the thread since this thread shows many reference examples. What makes it specially interesting is a blade with yelman. You may try for "unpolishing" a very fine sandpaper with 2000 grit or a 0000 steel wool. Attached Images

22nd March 2018, 06:16 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Thank you for your kind words, Martin. What a nice set of swords you got there .

22nd March 2018, 09:16 PM	#4
Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 843	Fernando, I would also be interested in some good "unpolishing methods". Maybe fine pemza powder mixed with oil or water ?

23rd March 2018, 01:22 PM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Thank you for your kind words and the pictures of your excelent example, Tatiana. Thank you also for the unpolishing suggestions. Martin's idea for wet/oiled pumice powder would be a different method. Eventually my local silver smith also suggests steel wool or, as alternative, a (dishwashing) green scourer pad. In any case, i am not yet ready for such adventure and for the meantime, will leave it as it is. .