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Old 24th February 2018, 09:40 PM   #1
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It don t even come close to an parang nabur.

http://old.blades.free.fr/swords/day...ayak_intro.htm

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Old 25th February 2018, 07:18 AM   #2
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Ben:

Thank you for that succinct comment.

As I noted above, I'm not concerned about whether my sword is actually a parang naibur (or the absence of an agreed name for it)--perhaps it's closer to being a jimpul. My point in posting it was to learn more about what is considered old in style and what is new. Your earlier comment in another thread about thick and thin rattan on hilts was a starting point for my thinking about this.

Kai raised the possibility that it may have had a ceremonial function.

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Old 25th February 2018, 02:31 PM   #3
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Ben:

Thank you for that succinct comment.

As I noted above, I'm not concerned about whether my sword is actually a parang naibur (or the absence of an agreed name for it)--perhaps it's closer to being a jimpul. My point in posting it was to learn more about what is considered old in style and what is new. Your earlier comment in another thread about thick and thin rattan on hilts was a starting point for my thinking about this.

Kai raised the possibility that it may have had a ceremonial function.

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The style is not old of the blade he come close to Jimpul style blade.

Scabbard also not the age you think.

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Old 25th February 2018, 02:54 PM   #4
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The style is not old of the blade he come close to Jimpul style blade.

Scabbard also not the age you think.

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Ben,

Can you give me an estimate of how old you think the scabbard and blade may be? Kai has mentioned the scabbard is unusual. Do you agree?

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Old 25th February 2018, 04:30 PM   #5
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[QUOTE=Ian]Ben,

Can you give me an estimate of how old you think the scabbard and blade may be? Kai has mentioned the scabbard is unusual. Do you agree?

Ian[/QUOTE

What is unusual on the scabbard?

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Old 25th February 2018, 04:43 PM   #6
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Hello Ian,

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Kai has mentioned the scabbard is unusual.
I said it is rare that these are complete with scabbard - the lower quality blades often seem to come without them...

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I said it is rare that these are complete with scabbard - the lower quality blades often seem to come without them...

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This one was in the KIT museum 1916....1956 the blade is different.
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Old 25th February 2018, 05:10 PM   #8
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Hello Ben,

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This one was in the KIT museum 1916....1956 the blade is different.
Thanks for this example - the blade and hilt seem to have better quality IMHO.

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Old 25th February 2018, 04:54 PM   #9
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Kai raised the possibility that it may have had a ceremonial function.
IMHO the blade is not old enough to have been used in any raids; maybe as a tool in the jungle though. Assuming it's vintage, ceremonies may have been its main purpose...

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