Indo Persian Shamshir

RobertGuy · 29th November 2017, 12:14 PM

Thank you all for the comments. I was sure that this was not wootz but I do have some experience of pattern welded blades and I think this is one. I do not think it is simply a decorative pattern on mono steel as my applying an etchant would have destroyed that rather than enhancing the pattern as it did. I take the point about the misuse of the term Damascus but in my defense it does seem to be in common use these days and I did try to indicate a difference by calling it "mechanical Damascus"

There is a current thread

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=23381,

which shows a vastly superior true wootz blade which makes me very envious

. (only green icon I could find

) It did cause me to look again at the hilts which appear very similar. Does this give any indication of age? Or have these hilts been fairly standard for a long period of time? What I am really asking is would it be correct to label my sword as a Syrian shamshir dating to early 18th century or is it likely to be later?
I have included some more photos which may help including on of the hilt before a spot of light cleaning.

Bryce · 29th November 2017, 08:33 PM

G'day Robert,

Attached are a couple of photos of the hilt of my sword. They are almost identical in style. I think the brass rosettes on my sword must be later replacements. I don't know if my hilt is original to the blade or it has been remounted at some stage?

Cheers,
Bryce

29th November 2017, 12:14 PM	#1
RobertGuy Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 135	Thank you all for the comments. I was sure that this was not wootz but I do have some experience of pattern welded blades and I think this is one. I do not think it is simply a decorative pattern on mono steel as my applying an etchant would have destroyed that rather than enhancing the pattern as it did. I take the point about the misuse of the term Damascus but in my defense it does seem to be in common use these days and I did try to indicate a difference by calling it "mechanical Damascus" There is a current thread http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=23381, which shows a vastly superior true wootz blade which makes me very envious . (only green icon I could find ) It did cause me to look again at the hilts which appear very similar. Does this give any indication of age? Or have these hilts been fairly standard for a long period of time? What I am really asking is would it be correct to label my sword as a Syrian shamshir dating to early 18th century or is it likely to be later? I have included some more photos which may help including on of the hilt before a spot of light cleaning. Attached Images

29th November 2017, 08:33 PM	#2
Bryce Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: North Queensland, Australia Posts: 189	G'day Robert, Attached are a couple of photos of the hilt of my sword. They are almost identical in style. I think the brass rosettes on my sword must be later replacements. I don't know if my hilt is original to the blade or it has been remounted at some stage? Cheers, Bryce Attached Images