A flintlock pistol ... with a Portuguese lock.

Fernando K · 20th November 2017, 06:48 PM

Dear namesake

The working face of the rake seems to be false, welded and a repair is seen with bronze welding on the temple

Fernando K

fernando · 20th November 2017, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fernando K

... The working face of the rake seems to be false, welded and a repair is seen with bronze welding on the temple...

I see nothing false. What i see is that the rake face is replaceable. When it is much worn, it can be changed, so that the (signed) battery remains the same. I see nothing wrong with that; on the contrary, a good idea.
... Sorry i don't know what you mean by bronze welding on the "temple".

Fernando K · 20th November 2017, 07:41 PM

Dear namesake

The image was very small, it seemed to me. A thousand pardons

Fernando K

Fernando K · 20th November 2017, 07:53 PM

Dear namesake

When I say it's false, I mean it's POSTIZA. It's because I do not know English, and I must go to the translator

I want to express PATILLA

Anyway, from now on I will keep silence

fernando · 20th November 2017, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fernando K

...Anyway, from now on I will keep silence

De ninguna manera, Tocayo.
You are an authority in this field; we need you here.
Just a pity that you used to post your texts both translated to English and also in original Spanish. This way we could check on terms translated the wrong way, which so often happens with translating engines, specially on technical subjects.

Miqueleter · 21st November 2017, 02:50 AM

Fernando K, please do as fernando requested. I learned from you and you always made observations and posts so very much more interesting. So please remain active in the forum.

Respectfully,

miqueleter

rickystl · 22nd November 2017, 01:02 PM

Fernando: Thank you for the additional photos. Most helpful. Some additional observations:

STOCK: The lock mortise now confirms for me that the stock was made later to accomodate the older lock and barrel. While the lock and barrel have seen a lot of use and re-use.
BARREL: Yes, now you can see where the percussion bolster once resided. But it appears there was no effort made to fill in the larger hole and re-drill a smaller hole for the vent. Unless it was filled at some point, and just burned out from usage. (?) I sure would not want to be standing to the side of the lock while firing. LOL
LOCK: This is the first first I've seen with that downward curve of the tail on the lock plate. Glad that Philip offered his analysis of this feature. The seperate striking surface on the frizzen (battery) is quite common on these locks. It would be easier and less expensive to make this piece than to make a new frizzen. And, as mentioned, keeping the identification on the front of the frizzen. While this seperate striking face was usually wedged in place, some of the Eastern locks were actually held in place with a set-screw per the photos below.

Again, it's sure an interesting pistol with a multiple history. And a very interesting Thread. Thanks to all.

Fernando K : Yes, please stay with us. Your expertise is very much needed.

Rick

21st November 2017, 02:50 AM	#6
Miqueleter Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 39	Portuguese patilla Fernando K, please do as fernando requested. I learned from you and you always made observations and posts so very much more interesting. So please remain active in the forum. Respectfully, miqueleter

22nd November 2017, 01:02 PM	#7
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,632	Fernando: Thank you for the additional photos. Most helpful. Some additional observations: STOCK: The lock mortise now confirms for me that the stock was made later to accomodate the older lock and barrel. While the lock and barrel have seen a lot of use and re-use. BARREL: Yes, now you can see where the percussion bolster once resided. But it appears there was no effort made to fill in the larger hole and re-drill a smaller hole for the vent. Unless it was filled at some point, and just burned out from usage. (?) I sure would not want to be standing to the side of the lock while firing. LOL LOCK: This is the first first I've seen with that downward curve of the tail on the lock plate. Glad that Philip offered his analysis of this feature. The seperate striking surface on the frizzen (battery) is quite common on these locks. It would be easier and less expensive to make this piece than to make a new frizzen. And, as mentioned, keeping the identification on the front of the frizzen. While this seperate striking face was usually wedged in place, some of the Eastern locks were actually held in place with a set-screw per the photos below. Again, it's sure an interesting pistol with a multiple history. And a very interesting Thread. Thanks to all. Fernando K : Yes, please stay with us. Your expertise is very much needed. Rick Attached Images

20th November 2017, 06:48 PM	#1
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	Dear namesake The working face of the rake seems to be false, welded and a repair is seen with bronze welding on the temple Fernando K

20th November 2017, 07:41 PM	#3
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	Dear namesake The image was very small, it seemed to me. A thousand pardons Fernando K

20th November 2017, 07:53 PM	#4
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	Dear namesake When I say it's false, I mean it's POSTIZA. It's because I do not know English, and I must go to the translator I want to express PATILLA Anyway, from now on I will keep silence