Jimpul ex.collection W.O. Oldman

Dajak · 19th March 2006, 10:58 AM

This is an headmans Jimpul

Alam Shah · 19th March 2006, 12:53 PM

Dajak,

Another unique and interesting exquisite piece. The inlays looks like it's made from a few different materials.

Flavio · 19th March 2006, 01:21 PM

Hello Dayak, what a beautiful toys you have!!!

I have a question: i see in the last times a lot of mandau swords on ebay, that at my profane eyes, seem all modern or tourist items, but every times at the end of the auctions the price are very high. So can you give me guys, some ideas of what is good and what is a very true fake

. Thank you

nechesh · 21st March 2006, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flavio

Hello Dayak, what a beautiful toys you have!!!

I have a question: i see in the last times a lot of mandau swords on ebay, that at my profane eyes, seem all modern or tourist items, but every times at the end of the auctions the price are very high. So can you give me guys, some ideas of what is good and what is a very true fake

. Thank you

I'm not sure exactly what obvious tourist pieces you have seen go for high prices on ebay. I have noticed a few lately that didn't seem to get any bids. But i wouldn't necessarily confuse modern with tourist. I have also noticed some of these newer mandaus. Keep in mind that certain tribes in the inland areas were still taking heads as later as the 1970s, so a relatively modern blade could still be considered authentic (not that it would have to have taken a head to be so

) . I would imagine that the quality level on authentic pieces would be the tell-tale. I recently posted a mandau that is probably pre-WWII, but no doubt solidly a 20thC piece. It doesn't have the nice age and patina of the pieces Dayak has posted, but it is none the less authentic.

Asian Collector · 19th April 2006, 09:12 PM

Hello Group:

Have seen in recent times more than several very good quality mandau handles on the sword that have a very old looking smoked patina. Some, of course show up on ebay in the past have this, but they appear to be fake overall. What confuses me is that some really appear to have a smokey patina and are very good quality and old. Is this because they are smoked originally, left in a longhouse and pick it up there and have never been cleaned or what? It seems that most nice dayak mandau have been rubbed or kept clean on the handle. If the rest of the sword is not smoked patina and the handle is; isn't this a little suspicious also?
Appreciate your comments,
Asian Collector

Dajak · 19th April 2006, 10:50 PM

HI Asian collector if a handle is smoked I always suspicious because the handle is the most touched off the mandau .
It can be turned a little yellow from the time but not to dark as the mostly you see. the old man Jimpul is about 150 years old dark in and glossy at the parts that have been touched .

19th March 2006, 10:58 AM	#1
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	This is an headmans Jimpul Attached Images

19th April 2006, 09:12 PM	#5
Asian Collector Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1	Mandau handle with smoke patina Hello Group: Have seen in recent times more than several very good quality mandau handles on the sword that have a very old looking smoked patina. Some, of course show up on ebay in the past have this, but they appear to be fake overall. What confuses me is that some really appear to have a smokey patina and are very good quality and old. Is this because they are smoked originally, left in a longhouse and pick it up there and have never been cleaned or what? It seems that most nice dayak mandau have been rubbed or kept clean on the handle. If the rest of the sword is not smoked patina and the handle is; isn't this a little suspicious also? Appreciate your comments, Asian Collector

19th March 2006, 12:53 PM	#2
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Dajak, Another unique and interesting exquisite piece. The inlays looks like it's made from a few different materials.

19th March 2006, 01:21 PM	#3
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hello Dayak, what a beautiful toys you have!!! I have a question: i see in the last times a lot of mandau swords on ebay, that at my profane eyes, seem all modern or tourist items, but every times at the end of the auctions the price are very high. So can you give me guys, some ideas of what is good and what is a very true fake . Thank you

19th April 2006, 10:50 PM	#6
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	HI Asian collector if a handle is smoked I always suspicious because the handle is the most touched off the mandau . It can be turned a little yellow from the time but not to dark as the mostly you see. the old man Jimpul is about 150 years old dark in and glossy at the parts that have been touched .