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Old 12th September 2017, 10:05 PM   #1
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Hi Detlef:

Very nice knife. That heavy "chunky" ferrule is not really typical of Thai work and reminds me more of what we see sometimes on Sumatran pedang and similar knives/swords. I think I would favor southern Thailand near Malaysia as its source. Nice find.

Any thoughts about the figure on the hilt?

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Old 13th September 2017, 01:17 AM   #2
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Very nice knife. That heavy "chunky" ferrule is not really typical of Thai work and reminds me more of what we see sometimes on Sumatran pedang and similar knives/swords. I think I would favor southern Thailand near Malaysia as its source. Nice find.

Any thoughts about the figure on the hilt?
Hi Ian,

thank you for comment. I think both guesses are good as the other. The Thai Tak province Mae Sot river region (border to Burma) I've had in mind because this bird head dha's coming from this region and the blade shape is very similar, see also this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=bird+head
But the origin from the Southern Thai (Pattani) region is also a very good one, like you said, the chunky silver ferrule is a good hint for this origin.

Maybe the blade construction can give us a hint when I have it in my hands. The blade looks laminated which would pin point to South Thailand IMVHO.

And no, I haven't a clue about the deity hilt, do you have something in mind?

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Old 13th September 2017, 01:34 AM   #3
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Hi Detlef:

I was trying to track down your reference to the "Tak Province Mae Sot region." Those terms are not showing up using the search engine for this site. Perhaps you could let us know where that attribution comes from.

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Old 13th September 2017, 01:41 AM   #4
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Hi Ian,

a very good friend of mine have visited this region (like many others) and have found that these bird head dha's coming from there, the one shown on the red background was once in his possession like some others in the same style.

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Old 13th September 2017, 03:55 PM   #5
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Hi Detlef:

Thanks for that information. As far as the identification of the figure on the hilt, I wonder if it is a depiction of Hanuman from the Thai Ramakien. We had a discussion previously of how Hanuman is portrayed in the Thai version of the Ramayama here. The open mouth and canine teeth are common features in Hanuman's representation.

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Old 13th September 2017, 10:07 PM   #6
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Hi Ian,

very good hint and very obvious! This would also explain the "crown" he wearing. Thank you.

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Old 20th September 2017, 12:03 AM   #7
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Have received the knife already some days ago. Sadly is the blade heavy and partly deep scratched from a previous owner by a grinder or something else, the tip of the blade was bended and the horn hilt is cracked in the back. The tip is straight again and I've started to repolish the blade on one side, it's possible but hard work. The blade seems to be laminated what let me think that the origin is South Thailand.
The deity hilt figure has no fangs so I don't think that it shows Hanuman. Soon as possible I will be able to show some better pictures but here a few fast taken ones which shows how badly the blade is scratched and some close ups from the hilt.
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