Your chillanum is from the 17th c.

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by Mercenary

In its origin "cilanum" ("khapwa" is more correct) is old Indian dagger. Under the influence of the Mughals, Turks and Afghans in the 17th and 18th centuries it was ousted and replaced by khanjars and peshkabs (especially in 18th when stright Afghan peshkabz - karud began to spread).

Hi

Thank you it's a good point but if you look at Holstein, he said that new names were introduced but it doesnt mean new daggers (or not always)...

[Mercenary]

Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi

Thank you it's a good point but if you look at Holstein, he said that new names were introduced but it doesnt mean new daggers (or not always)...

I think we uderstand the difference between Indian cilanum/khapwa and other Indo-Persian-Afghan daggers with other types of hilt and blade.

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Chilanum are all over the age spectrum. See https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/C...num?uselang=de

Take the first example at the web page above. This one is 1500/1600 vintage.
At http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/L...0-details.aspx there is an 18th C example.

As a general note not limited to this weapon only~ There are many people who may not know what a Chilanum is... or that it is also called a Chilanam, where it is from or anything else about it.


Technology is roaring away at a pace...
Is there not a simple program that can do Forum a few favours like automatically list the top 5 threads at Forum Library concerning this or that weapon ? and place those at the beginning of every thread ?

Algorithyms can sort Library references in about a half a second...?

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

At http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/L...0-details.aspx there is an 18th C example.

A nice example but 6875 GBH!!! It is described as 18th century and "earlier"? Put together, perhaps an older hilt and a newer blade?

A CURVED STEEL DAGGER (CHILANUM)
NORTH INDIA, 18TH CENTURY AND EARLIER

A CURVED STEEL DAGGER (CHILANUM)
NORTH INDIA, 18TH CENTURY AND EARLIER
With a curved watered-steel double-edged blade with medial ridge and reinforced point, the 'T'-shaped hilt with a rectangular grip with rounded knop finial, curved knuckle-guard issuing from a stylised elephant mouth and terminating in a horse's head, the rainguard with a ram's head finial, blade and hilt contemporaneous but associated
13½in. (34cm.) long

[estcrh]

Here is one from Runjeet, described as early 17th century or even 16th century.

[Kubur]

and here is mine
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=clean

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by Kubur

and here is mine
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=clean

It certainly looks old.