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[Roland_M]

Originally Posted by Lee

Roman slingshot projectile?

I would also say it is a Roman slingshot projectile.
Here is a picture from an german archeologic discovery near the town Haltern. Similar dimensions as Fernandos example.

Roland

[Andi]

Definitively slingingshot projectiles most probably ancient Roman.

On German Wikipedia you will find an detialed article about this objects:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schleuderblei

Are there any traces of former inscriptions on the projectiles?

[Rick]

What kind of inscriptions Andi?

Ones that were like the graffiti written on later cannon balls and more recently bombs?

[fernando]

Originally Posted by Rick

What kind of inscriptions Andi?

One that were like the graffiti written on later cannon balls and more recently bombs?

That was the idea, Rick; phrases like "ΔΕΞΑΙ" (Dexai) meaning "catch" (this one).

[Rick]

The football shape giving it spin thus more accuracy seems quite plausible.

[kronckew]

a couple greek cast message ones and some roman ones with a wooden mold. also shows two 'thumb' projectiles, thumb stuck in clay, then lead poured in.

[fernando]

Originally Posted by kronckew

...and some roman ones with a wooden mold. also shows two 'thumb' projectiles, thumb stuck in clay, then lead poured in.

You mean replicas of Roman examples, Wayne ? Looks like both glands and molds have been made last Saturday .

[Philip]

Very good replicas indeed! Attaining accuracy with a sling is undoubtedly a good way to develop hand-eye coordination. This sort of exercise might just be the thing to get children off the couch and away from electronics on a sunny weekend More appealing than piano lessons, don't you think?

[kronckew]

Originally Posted by fernando

You mean replicas of Roman examples, Wayne ? Looks like both glands and molds have been made last Saturday .

i found them via google, i am assuming the wooden mold is recent and they have not been polishing old bullets. they are representative of other ancient ones tho. experimental archaeology.

a more thorough googling found a bunch of better and somewhat older examples: acorn & whistlers, old thumbs, scorpio & bird (?), flower power, and a horde of roman shot found in situ near a scottish hill fort, Burnswark Hill, in the Dumfries region of southwest Scotland, that they were attacking.

...and now the science, more experimental archaeology: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MB7M27WnG0 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vJBKfQFD8I

[fernando]

Originally Posted by fernando

That was the idea, Rick; phrases like "ΔΕΞΑΙ" (Dexai) meaning "catch" (this one).

Although multiple versions are registered, when going deep into this subject, like:
Names of conflicting states or cities; names of Generals; wishings to one self (Victory); (obtain) wishings towards the enemy; animals depiction: generally dangerous; thunderbolts, weapons and similar, as other symbols: scorpions, cobras, eagles, stylized thunderbolts, lances, tridents , etc.
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[Victrix]

Slightly larger slingshot ammunition:

I just returned from a trip to the medieval town of Visby on Gotland. In an arrow slit on the top floor of the St.George gate in the 13thC town wall, can be seen a wedged stone missile catapulted from a mangonel during one of the medieval sieges!


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[fernando]

Beautiful ... and rather large for a slingshot ammo, indeed .

[fernando]

Originally Posted by Andi

... Are there any traces of former inscriptions on the projectiles?

No Andi, not so lucky; inscriptions were used by the Greeks, a few centuries earlier. There are also examples with a hole in the middle, to make them wistle while flying; i ignore the purpose ... scaring the enemy ?

[fernando]

Outstanding; i just went to a shop downtown and when i was back the riddle was already cracked; within precisely 22 minutes.
Indeed a sling projectile, called by archeologists 'gland'; full name glans plumbeae.
As apparently there are no mould seams, it must be the later beaten plate version, of so called biconic shape, which could be dated around the last phase of Roman civil wars (2-1 centuries BC).
Found somewhere in the middle of the country; there are not many around.