Koummya with nice(?) blade

shayde78 · 6th August 2017, 06:29 PM

Thank you all for the feedback. In the old blade (the first item pictured) there may be a maker's Mark under the grime at the base of the riccaso. I will try to get better pictures of that for you.

Regarding the second item: while I was fairly certain of the low quality of the blade, my real question was about the suspension rings which seem unique in my (admittedly) limited experience. Any feedback on this specific element?

Thanks again.

Sajen · 6th August 2017, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shayde78

Regarding the second item: while I was fairly certain of the low quality of the blade, my real question was about the suspension rings which seem unique in my (admittedly) limited experience. Any feedback on this specific element?

Not uncommon, see here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...7&postcount=20

taken from this interesting thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=koummya

But like said, I am afraid that this piece is very recent.

Regards,
Detlef

Kubur · 6th August 2017, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shayde78

Thank you all for the feedback. In the old blade (the first item pictured) there may be a maker's Mark under the grime at the base of the riccaso. I will try to get better pictures of that for you.
Thanks again.

It's normal. All the 19th c. koummya have imported blades.
Let's see if it's an English, French or Spanish blade...

Quote:

Originally Posted by shayde78

Regarding the second item: while I was fairly certain of the low quality of the blade, my real question was about the suspension rings which seem unique in my (admittedly) limited experience. Any feedback on this specific element?
Thanks again.

It's normal, this kind of koummya has this kind of suspension rings.

shayde78 · 12th August 2017, 01:51 AM

So I've cleaned off enough grime to see the mark. It isn't complete, as it appears a portion has worn off. To me, it looks like the leg and three tail feathers of a bird(?). In this condition, abstract enough to be open to interpretation. I'm hoping someone with a good list of known marks can match it up to something.
As always, thanks for your insights.

Oh, and a picture of the full blade again. I know folks weren't too pleased with the prior pics, so I hope these prove more useful.

shayde78 · 15th August 2017, 06:00 PM

Oops! I promised a better image of the blade, and instead uploaded two images of the mark (any thoughts on the mark, by the way??).

Here is the brighter image of the whole thing:

shayde78 · 25th August 2017, 02:53 AM

Wow...no guesses regarding the maker's mark, eh?

shayde78 · 6th September 2017, 02:32 AM

I found something that might be a similar mark; Juan Martinez of Toledo. The date seems way too old, however. Also, not an exact match, but I'm not sure how accurately these marks are transcribed.

Thoughts?

shayde78 · 25th October 2017, 01:32 AM

Jim provided some thoughts on the maker's mark here (and many thanks, Jim!)

Since there doesn't seem to be a European connection, has anyone seen a bird mark used an blades from the Islamic world that would be consistent with this mark as shown in post #14?

12th August 2017, 01:51 AM	#4
shayde78 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 445	So I've cleaned off enough grime to see the mark. It isn't complete, as it appears a portion has worn off. To me, it looks like the leg and three tail feathers of a bird(?). In this condition, abstract enough to be open to interpretation. I'm hoping someone with a good list of known marks can match it up to something. As always, thanks for your insights. Oh, and a picture of the full blade again. I know folks weren't too pleased with the prior pics, so I hope these prove more useful. Attached Images

15th August 2017, 06:00 PM	#5
shayde78 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 445	Oops! I promised a better image of the blade, and instead uploaded two images of the mark (any thoughts on the mark, by the way??). Here is the brighter image of the whole thing: Attached Images

6th September 2017, 02:32 AM	#7
shayde78 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 445	I found something that might be a similar mark; Juan Martinez of Toledo. The date seems way too old, however. Also, not an exact match, but I'm not sure how accurately these marks are transcribed. Thoughts? Attached Images

6th August 2017, 06:29 PM	#1
shayde78 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 445	Thank you all for the feedback. In the old blade (the first item pictured) there may be a maker's Mark under the grime at the base of the riccaso. I will try to get better pictures of that for you. Regarding the second item: while I was fairly certain of the low quality of the blade, my real question was about the suspension rings which seem unique in my (admittedly) limited experience. Any feedback on this specific element? Thanks again.

25th August 2017, 02:53 AM	#6
shayde78 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 445	Wow...no guesses regarding the maker's mark, eh?

25th October 2017, 01:32 AM	#8
shayde78 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 445	Jim provided some thoughts on the maker's mark here (and many thanks, Jim!) Since there doesn't seem to be a European connection, has anyone seen a bird mark used an blades from the Islamic world that would be consistent with this mark as shown in post #14?