Nice Sundanese Parang/Golok for comments

Rick · 5th August 2017, 03:18 PM

Beautifully carved handle!
It looks like Tjikereoh work although the engraving style seems a bit different.
Wonderful sword.

kai · 5th August 2017, 08:19 PM

Hello Severin,

Congrats, a really nice gobang!

While it is shorter than many examples, it certainly is still within the range of weapons of the region - maybe a tad short for deer hunting from horse back though. Are you sure that the blade was never sharpened or did the edge got possibly dulled?

The hilt is probably coastal Sundanese and an apparently early type.

BTW, make sure not to miss Maurice's seminal online paper on the gobang!

Regards,
Kai

Athanase · 5th August 2017, 09:54 PM

I saw a month ago in an antique shop a slightly shorter example with a blade engraved finer but without date.
The scabbard was slightly different. The two extremities were of buffalo horn, and the top of the scabbard was surrounded by a red fabric embroidered with a golden / silver thread, with a passer-by to attach it to a belt.
The handle was also different, she represented a feline (tiger?). It was made of very finely sculpted horn with white glass eyes. The base of the handle was covered with a thick silver plate ornamented with plant motifs.

The problem is that it was expensive for me, especially since it was sold fixed on a bamboo board with West African weapons and the lot was indivisible ...

I took some photos with my phone (low quality) but I have to find the pictures.

Athanase · 5th August 2017, 10:21 PM

The "tiger"" Gobang :

Athanase · 5th August 2017, 10:22 PM

more details :

Sajen · 6th August 2017, 01:24 AM

Hello Athanase,

like Kai said already, a very nice gobang. The handle on yours and the other one you missed show Makara, not a tiger, see here my Cirebon (?) sword with Makara handle: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=makara
Gobangs were discussed here several times, see for example here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=sulawesi & http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=gobang

Regards,
Detlef
PS: you have pm

Athanase · 6th August 2017, 09:42 AM

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The handle on yours and the other one you missed show Makara, not a tiger

Ok,
In my head I understood that the makara was only an animal with a more protruding mouth and trunk with a more demonic or dragon aspect.
Thank you for clarifying this.
Also I hesitated to give the name of gobang because the blade resembled much the Tjikereoh style and I thought (wrongly) that the gobang had only handles of geometric shape as in your last two links.

5th August 2017, 10:21 PM	#4
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 420	The "tiger"" Gobang : Attached Images

5th August 2017, 10:22 PM	#5
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 420	more details : Attached Images

6th August 2017, 09:42 AM	#7
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 420	HTML Code: The handle on yours and the other one you missed show Makara, not a tiger Ok, In my head I understood that the makara was only an animal with a more protruding mouth and trunk with a more demonic or dragon aspect. Thank you for clarifying this. Also I hesitated to give the name of gobang because the blade resembled much the Tjikereoh style and I thought (wrongly) that the gobang had only handles of geometric shape as in your last two links.

5th August 2017, 03:18 PM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,365	Beautifully carved handle! It looks like Tjikereoh work although the engraving style seems a bit different. Wonderful sword.

5th August 2017, 08:19 PM	#2
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Severin, Congrats, a really nice gobang! While it is shorter than many examples, it certainly is still within the range of weapons of the region - maybe a tad short for deer hunting from horse back though. Are you sure that the blade was never sharpened or did the edge got possibly dulled? The hilt is probably coastal Sundanese and an apparently early type. BTW, make sure not to miss Maurice's seminal online paper on the gobang! Regards, Kai

5th August 2017, 09:54 PM	#3
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 420	I saw a month ago in an antique shop a slightly shorter example with a blade engraved finer but without date. The scabbard was slightly different. The two extremities were of buffalo horn, and the top of the scabbard was surrounded by a red fabric embroidered with a golden / silver thread, with a passer-by to attach it to a belt. The handle was also different, she represented a feline (tiger?). It was made of very finely sculpted horn with white glass eyes. The base of the handle was covered with a thick silver plate ornamented with plant motifs. The problem is that it was expensive for me, especially since it was sold fixed on a bamboo board with West African weapons and the lot was indivisible ... I took some photos with my phone (low quality) but I have to find the pictures.

6th August 2017, 01:24 AM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,333	Hello Athanase, like Kai said already, a very nice gobang. The handle on yours and the other one you missed show Makara, not a tiger, see here my Cirebon (?) sword with Makara handle: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=makara Gobangs were discussed here several times, see for example here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=sulawesi & http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=gobang Regards, Detlef PS: you have pm