Koummya with nice(?) blade

Sajen · 4th August 2017, 03:45 PM

Hi Eytan,

I think you mixed up here something, both Koummya belong to shayde78, I only commented with my limited knowledge.

But you seems to confirm what I've said. And yes, I think also that the first dagger have a trade blade, like Kubur I would like to see better pictures.

And like you I think that the second piece is a so called tourist dagger, cheaply worked with steel sheet blade.

Better pictures would be really helpful.

Regards,
Detlef

Helleri · 4th August 2017, 09:47 PM

Can't hardly see that first blade. I took the image to GIMP and applied contrast mask and some mild sharpening.

motan · 5th August 2017, 01:22 PM

Yes Detlef, I see my mistake. But everything I wrote is still valid, also with the new picture. The silver is soft and what happened to the rings shows it has been carried for many years. Probably a late 19th c. piece.

Sajen · 6th August 2017, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motan

Yes Detlef, I see my mistake. But everything I wrote is still valid, also with the new picture. The silver is soft and what happened to the rings shows it has been carried for many years. Probably a late 19th c. piece.

Agree complete with you!

shayde78 · 6th August 2017, 06:29 PM

Thank you all for the feedback. In the old blade (the first item pictured) there may be a maker's Mark under the grime at the base of the riccaso. I will try to get better pictures of that for you.

Regarding the second item: while I was fairly certain of the low quality of the blade, my real question was about the suspension rings which seem unique in my (admittedly) limited experience. Any feedback on this specific element?

Thanks again.

Sajen · 6th August 2017, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shayde78

Regarding the second item: while I was fairly certain of the low quality of the blade, my real question was about the suspension rings which seem unique in my (admittedly) limited experience. Any feedback on this specific element?

Not uncommon, see here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...7&postcount=20

taken from this interesting thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=koummya

But like said, I am afraid that this piece is very recent.

Regards,
Detlef

Kubur · 6th August 2017, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shayde78

Thank you all for the feedback. In the old blade (the first item pictured) there may be a maker's Mark under the grime at the base of the riccaso. I will try to get better pictures of that for you.
Thanks again.

It's normal. All the 19th c. koummya have imported blades.
Let's see if it's an English, French or Spanish blade...

Quote:

Originally Posted by shayde78

Regarding the second item: while I was fairly certain of the low quality of the blade, my real question was about the suspension rings which seem unique in my (admittedly) limited experience. Any feedback on this specific element?
Thanks again.

It's normal, this kind of koummya has this kind of suspension rings.

shayde78 · 12th August 2017, 01:51 AM

So I've cleaned off enough grime to see the mark. It isn't complete, as it appears a portion has worn off. To me, it looks like the leg and three tail feathers of a bird(?). In this condition, abstract enough to be open to interpretation. I'm hoping someone with a good list of known marks can match it up to something.
As always, thanks for your insights.

Oh, and a picture of the full blade again. I know folks weren't too pleased with the prior pics, so I hope these prove more useful.

shayde78 · 15th August 2017, 06:00 PM

Oops! I promised a better image of the blade, and instead uploaded two images of the mark (any thoughts on the mark, by the way??).

Here is the brighter image of the whole thing:

12th August 2017, 01:51 AM	#8
shayde78 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 445	So I've cleaned off enough grime to see the mark. It isn't complete, as it appears a portion has worn off. To me, it looks like the leg and three tail feathers of a bird(?). In this condition, abstract enough to be open to interpretation. I'm hoping someone with a good list of known marks can match it up to something. As always, thanks for your insights. Oh, and a picture of the full blade again. I know folks weren't too pleased with the prior pics, so I hope these prove more useful. Attached Images

15th August 2017, 06:00 PM	#9
shayde78 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 445	Oops! I promised a better image of the blade, and instead uploaded two images of the mark (any thoughts on the mark, by the way??). Here is the brighter image of the whole thing: Attached Images

4th August 2017, 03:45 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,212	Hi Eytan, I think you mixed up here something, both Koummya belong to shayde78, I only commented with my limited knowledge. But you seems to confirm what I've said. And yes, I think also that the first dagger have a trade blade, like Kubur I would like to see better pictures. And like you I think that the second piece is a so called tourist dagger, cheaply worked with steel sheet blade. Better pictures would be really helpful. Regards, Detlef

4th August 2017, 09:47 PM	#2
Helleri Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Chino, CA. Posts: 219	Can't hardly see that first blade. I took the image to GIMP and applied contrast mask and some mild sharpening.

5th August 2017, 01:22 PM	#3
motan Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Jerusalem Posts: 274	Yes Detlef, I see my mistake. But everything I wrote is still valid, also with the new picture. The silver is soft and what happened to the rings shows it has been carried for many years. Probably a late 19th c. piece.

6th August 2017, 06:29 PM	#5
shayde78 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 445	Thank you all for the feedback. In the old blade (the first item pictured) there may be a maker's Mark under the grime at the base of the riccaso. I will try to get better pictures of that for you. Regarding the second item: while I was fairly certain of the low quality of the blade, my real question was about the suspension rings which seem unique in my (admittedly) limited experience. Any feedback on this specific element? Thanks again.