Elegant flintlock musket

Marcus den toom · 2nd August 2017, 08:02 AM

After closer inspection of the monogram i wonder if it doesnt read J S L?
Or J S P L?
I attached better pictures of the monogram, i browsed high and low to find this monogram and the name it symolizes but sofar no succes.

Marcus den toom · 3rd August 2017, 01:52 PM

Maybe even J F L?

Marcus den toom · 15th August 2017, 11:37 AM

Do you have a idea about the monogram Corrado (or anyone else of course)?
There does not seem to be a bishop with this monogram anywhere, while it must have been an important person?

corrado26 · 15th August 2017, 06:10 PM

Hello Marcus

I made for you the drawing in three different colors to state that the monogramm reads clearly JPL, nothing else.
Regards
corrado26

Pukka Bundook · 17th August 2017, 01:44 PM

Marcus,

This is a beautiful sporting gun!
I would very much like to see the lock internals, plus a photo of the buttplate tang and the trigger-guard, plus the sideplate opposite the lock.

The shape of the lock and stocking up of this arm says Corrado has the date right...late 17th -early 18th C.

Again, a fabulous gun!

Marcus den toom · 17th August 2017, 08:39 PM

Hi Richard,

Here are the requested pictures

Pukka Bundook · 18th August 2017, 01:40 PM

Lovely, lovely pictures Marcus.

They all seem say late 17th c, or very early 18th.
For what it is worth, the very endearing caricature head on the buttplate and guard were only used in England from about 1665 to 1690, with a very rare exception used later. How this compares with Continental taste I do not know.
I have seen nothing like this caricature in George Shumway's "Jaeger" book, that has smoothbores as well as rifled arms.

Congratulations on such a fine piece!
Richard.

2nd August 2017, 08:02 AM	#1
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	After closer inspection of the monogram i wonder if it doesnt read J S L? Or J S P L? I attached better pictures of the monogram, i browsed high and low to find this monogram and the name it symolizes but sofar no succes. Attached Images

15th August 2017, 06:10 PM	#4
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,231	Hello Marcus I made for you the drawing in three different colors to state that the monogramm reads clearly JPL, nothing else. Regards corrado26 Attached Images

17th August 2017, 08:39 PM	#6
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	Hi Richard, Here are the requested pictures Attached Images

3rd August 2017, 01:52 PM	#2
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	Maybe even J F L?

15th August 2017, 11:37 AM	#3
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	Do you have a idea about the monogram Corrado (or anyone else of course)? There does not seem to be a bishop with this monogram anywhere, while it must have been an important person?

17th August 2017, 01:44 PM	#5
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Marcus, This is a beautiful sporting gun! I would very much like to see the lock internals, plus a photo of the buttplate tang and the trigger-guard, plus the sideplate opposite the lock. The shape of the lock and stocking up of this arm says Corrado has the date right...late 17th -early 18th C. Again, a fabulous gun!

18th August 2017, 01:40 PM	#7
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Lovely, lovely pictures Marcus. They all seem say late 17th c, or very early 18th. For what it is worth, the very endearing caricature head on the buttplate and guard were only used in England from about 1665 to 1690, with a very rare exception used later. How this compares with Continental taste I do not know. I have seen nothing like this caricature in George Shumway's "Jaeger" book, that has smoothbores as well as rifled arms. Congratulations on such a fine piece! Richard.