Period Photos of People with Ethnographic Arms

[estcrh]

This image was posted already but I found a much larger one.

Moroccan man wearing a genoui (janwi) dagger and holding a kabyle (moukhala) musket, 1875-1890.

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[Robert]

I noticed that this photo has not been posted here yet.

[estcrh]

Bodyguard of the Sultan, Djokjakarta, Java, c1923.

[TVV]

Originally Posted by estcrh

This image was posted already but I found a much larger one.

Moroccan man wearing a genoui (janwi) dagger and holding a kabyle (moukhala) musket, 1875-1890.

Very nice, thanks to the better resolution I finally noticed the beehive flask on his right hip as well.

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by TVV

Very nice, thanks to the better resolution I finally noticed the beehive flask on his right hip as well.

Thanks for pointing that out!

[estcrh]

Afghan Afridi warriors, a good look reveals that two of them are wearing khyber knives, something not often seen.

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[kronckew]

i see what may be a third man with a 'khyber knife' with the end showing above his belt (i circled it in red) and the ghost of the scabbard tip outlined behind the robes that he wears further down, also circled in red.

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by kronckew

i see what may be a third man with a 'khyber knife' with the end showing above his belt (i circled it in red) and the ghost of the scabbard tip outlined behind the robes that he wears further down, also circled in red.

There are a few more partial showings of khyber knives and one pistol.

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by TVV

Very nice, thanks to the better resolution I finally noticed the beehive flask on his right hip as well.

and a koummiya
just look above the flask
for me the long dagger is a sboula not a genoui
It's very interesting, because this guy has a koummiya and a sboula.
IMHO the sboula was used as a short sword and the koummiya as a dagger.
More interesting the short sword is also called a nimcha in Morocco/Algeria.

[estcrh]

Here is an higher resolution image of one that was previously posted here. It shows two Afghans with jezail muskets. The image was large enough to see the karud dagger that one of them is wearing.

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[estcrh]

Would this particular type of musket be called a Moroccan afedali snaphaunce lock musket? I originally had it as a kabyle (moukhala) musket.

[RobertGuy]

Just noticed the ...bipod? in use here.I'm not a collecter of muskets and no little about them but how common were such attachments? I had somehow always thought of them as a modern development for automatic weapons.

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by RobertGuy

Just noticed the ...bipod? in use here.I'm not a collecter of muskets and no little about them but how common were such attachments? I had somehow always thought of them as a modern development for automatic weapons.

I have seen bipods on Tibetan and Afghan long guns and on one Persian example.

The Afghan Joozaeel or Mountain Rifle.
On Stone by J.Bennett. T. Black, Lith Cal. 1840.
Lithograph, rare. Sheet 115 x 205mm, 4½ x 8¼". Narrow margins.
A very unusual illustration of a jezail, with the distinctively curved stock and a bipod. It has been suggested that the jezail was originally designed to be held like a pistol with the stock under the arm, allowing use on horseback. However during the First Anglo-Afghan War (1839-42) it came into its own as a sniper weapon, fired down from high cliffs down onto the British Army retreating from Kabul to Jalalabad. Being heavier and longer-barrelled than the British Brown Bess musket, the Jezail outmatched the return fire. Most were hand-made: only a few were rifled.

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by estcrh

Would this particular type of musket be called a Moroccan afedali snaphaunce lock musket? I originally had it as a kabyle (moukhala) musket.

Mukahla (Snaphaunce lock). Taroudant Region, Oued Sous Valley, Morocco.
Stu

[kronckew]

estcrh, the Kazakh's axe above looks rather odd, almost like there is a knife blade mounted from the head along the haft. after zooming in, it looks like it may be part of a suspension strap of some sort. still a bit confusing tho. is it something else behind him obscured by the axe? found the framed image that shows a similar axe with a similar anomaly. anyone have a similar axe or photo of one?

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

Mukahla (Snaphaunce lock). Taroudant Region, Oued Sous Valley, Morocco.
Stu

Stu, I see some very similar guns being described as "afedali", I am not very familiar with the terms used with North African guns, maybe someone can explain what makes a gun an "afedali". I have read that "afedali" is a Moroccan Moukhala from the Taroudant area and the Souss wadi bassin.