Persian shamshir destroyed by USPS!!!

David · 10th July 2017, 11:59 PM

Did they have an elephant step on the box or something!!!

Should be insured though, yes?

Battara · 11th July 2017, 12:09 AM

HOLY CRAP!!

russel · 11th July 2017, 12:21 AM

Sue the BASTARDS!

ariel · 11th July 2017, 12:33 AM

My condolences.
It is awful......

Rick · 11th July 2017, 01:13 AM

That's a crime; and now someone has to go through the insurance process.

Not a single FRAGILE sticker?
That's also a crime.

estcrh · 11th July 2017, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

That's a crime; and now someone has to go through the insurance process.

Not a single FRAGILE sticker?
That's also a crime.

Yea not very well packaged but this particular dealer does sell a lot of swords and probably has not ran into this type of problem before, lulled into a sense of security. The funny this is that right before I got home and found this I had shipped a very long naginata in full koshirae for some repair work and even though I packed it quite good seeing this damaged sword made me wish I did a better job.

This is the first damaged item I have received in many years, I posted this as a warning for anyone who may be shipping or receiving a sword, gun etc that maybe should be over protected just in case. I will be sending this image to people I deal with. Plastic gun cases with foam lining are not expensive and would probably have prevented this from happening......what really makes me mad is seeing a beautiful sword like this one destroyed, what a waste.

Rick · 11th July 2017, 02:08 AM

Now, if you don't want any damage...
Expensive but reusable.

mariusgmioc · 11th July 2017, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

That's a crime; and now someone has to go through the insurance process.

Not a single FRAGILE sticker?
That's also a crime.

It is a sword for God's sake not a glass vase, so I don't think it should be labelled as fragile since it can withstand shocks and stress resulted from normal handling.

What happened here goes way beyond NORMAL handling and the package was subjected to tremendous forces (I would say more than 200 kg bending force).

So I believe the crime was on part of the carrier (USPS) for mishandling the package, not on part of the shipper who packed the sword adequately to withsdand NORMAL/REASONABLE handling.

Rick · 11th July 2017, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

It is a sword for God's sake not a glass vase, so I don't think it should be labelled as fragile since it can withstand shocks and stress resulted from normal handling.

What happened here goes way beyond NORMAL handling and the package was subjected to tremendous forces (I would say more than 200 kg bending force).

So I believe the crime was on part of the carrier (USPS) for mishandling the package, not on part of the shipper who packed the sword adequately to withsdand NORMAL/REASONABLE handling.

I put fragile stickers on everything I ship Marius.
You can't be too careful; and if it helps just the slightest bit to prevent damage then I'm all over it.
It sure can't hurt.

estcrh · 11th July 2017, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Did they have an elephant step on the box or something!!!

Should be insured though, yes?

The seller should have insured it, I have asked for a refund of course. I think only a wood box or gun case would have prevented this type of neglectful shipping.

shayde78 · 13th July 2017, 02:12 AM

Argh...that is infuriating! Regardless of your financial loss, it is one more lost piece of history.

estcrh · 13th July 2017, 05:37 AM

Well the seller has asked me to return the sword, he is working on the USPS insurance end of things. It hurts my eyes just looking at the sword!!!

The plastic tube works well, I have had spears as long as 9ft shipped in them, the problem with these is that anything that has a significant curve will not fit. My naginata was over 6 ft, the shaft fit but the blade had to much curve.

I do not ship very much but in the future I think I will line my cardboard boxes with some plywood, I recently had a sword shipped to me that way, the seller drilled two holes in the plywood and zip tied the sword to the plywood, no way it could be crushed like the shamshir was.

ausjulius · 4th September 2017, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by estcrh

The seller should have insured it, I have asked for a refund of course. I think only a wood box or gun case would have prevented this type of neglectful shipping.

looks like the forklift hit it full force i think a gun case would have failed. must have been 1000snd kgs slammed instantly on it

11th July 2017, 02:08 AM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Now, if you don't want any damage... Expensive but reusable. Attached Images

10th July 2017, 11:59 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Did they have an elephant step on the box or something!!! Should be insured though, yes?

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Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	HOLY CRAP!!

11th July 2017, 12:21 AM	#3
russel Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Tasmania, Australia Posts: 236	Sue the BASTARDS!

11th July 2017, 12:33 AM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	My condolences. It is awful......

11th July 2017, 01:13 AM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	That's a crime; and now someone has to go through the insurance process. Not a single FRAGILE sticker? That's also a crime.

13th July 2017, 02:12 AM	#11
shayde78 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 445	Argh...that is infuriating! Regardless of your financial loss, it is one more lost piece of history.

13th July 2017, 05:37 AM	#12
estcrh Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: USA Posts: 1,492	Well the seller has asked me to return the sword, he is working on the USPS insurance end of things. It hurts my eyes just looking at the sword!!! The plastic tube works well, I have had spears as long as 9ft shipped in them, the problem with these is that anything that has a significant curve will not fit. My naginata was over 6 ft, the shaft fit but the blade had to much curve. I do not ship very much but in the future I think I will line my cardboard boxes with some plywood, I recently had a sword shipped to me that way, the seller drilled two holes in the plywood and zip tied the sword to the plywood, no way it could be crushed like the shamshir was.