turkish straight sword- european blade

francantolin · 12th June 2017, 04:44 PM

Hello,
I'm still waiting the custom-authority export authorisation...they told me to wait another week...

Waiting for the shipping, I was looking for this particular sword shape:
oriental hilt with ''snakes'' guard and straight blade on the net.

I found two wonderful swords with the ''same'' shape in two of the nine swords of the Prophet Muhammad
( now in the Topkapi Museum Istambul )
: Al-Mathur and Al-Rasub,

Do this model of particular hilt and straight blade still been made in 19th-20th century in Arabia ? ( sorry for my bad english )
Attached Images

S.Al-Anizi · 12th June 2017, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by francantolin

Hello,

I found two wonderful swords with the ''same'' shape in two of the nine swords of the Prophet Muhammad
( now in the Topkapi Museum Istambul )
: Al-Mathur and Al-Rasub,

Do this model of particular hilt and straight blade still been made in 19th-20th century in Arabia ? ( sorry for my bad english )
Attached Images

Hello,

These swords which are housed in Topkapi sport 16th century Ottoman fittings, which replaced (unfortunately) their original hilts and scabbards. They are not Arab in from.

However, cross guards with upward facing quillons with snake/serpent heads seem to have appeared in the 12th Mamluk sphere of influence in the levant, and disappeared by the 16th century with the evolution of the swords of the region into sabers (early Turkish sabers)

EDIT: However the blades are original 7th century blades, wootz as well, most probably made in India and imported into the Arabian Peninsula

Cheers!

francantolin · 12th June 2017, 10:17 PM

Hello,
Thank you for you precious comments,
Really interesting to learn about the ''late'' arrival of really curved blade in the 16th century in the region who is now ''the Reference''.

I wonder how will look like the old mounts in Arabic region in the 6-7 century ?
a T hilt shape like Al-Battar sword ? ( useful !! )

Kind Regards

stelio · 12th June 2017, 10:32 PM

congratulations!!!

A truly beautiful sword with Ottoman influences from the depths of the time with a European blade.

I believe these swords used them on the border of northern Eastern Europe influenced by the eastern technique of the Ottoman Empire and Persia.
Again, congratulations.
The best
Stelios

12th June 2017, 04:44 PM	#1
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 905	Hello, I'm still waiting the custom-authority export authorisation...they told me to wait another week... Waiting for the shipping, I was looking for this particular sword shape: oriental hilt with ''snakes'' guard and straight blade on the net. I found two wonderful swords with the ''same'' shape in two of the nine swords of the Prophet Muhammad ( now in the Topkapi Museum Istambul ) : Al-Mathur and Al-Rasub, Do this model of particular hilt and straight blade still been made in 19th-20th century in Arabia ? ( sorry for my bad english ) Attached Images Attached Images

12th June 2017, 10:17 PM	#3
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 905	Hello, Thank you for you precious comments, Really interesting to learn about the ''late'' arrival of really curved blade in the 16th century in the region who is now ''the Reference''. I wonder how will look like the old mounts in Arabic region in the 6-7 century ? a T hilt shape like Al-Battar sword ? ( useful !! ) Kind Regards Attached Images

12th June 2017, 10:32 PM	#4
stelio Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 97	congratulations!!! A truly beautiful sword with Ottoman influences from the depths of the time with a European blade. I believe these swords used them on the border of northern Eastern Europe influenced by the eastern technique of the Ottoman Empire and Persia. Again, congratulations. The best Stelios