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Old 9th June 2017, 03:28 PM   #1
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Can someone comment on the keris blade. Is it Malay, Bugis, Sumatran or Javanese in origin? The blade was acquired from the USA, before the sarung was commissioned.
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Old 9th June 2017, 10:30 PM   #2
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Default Original motifs that inspired me

I enclose pictures of original ivory handles and sampir/wrongko that also inspired the "Anglo-Saxon" keris.

These motifs were purported to be Minangkabau.

Can someone comment whether these motifs carved on ivory are traditional Minangkabau designs or a recent artistic expression?

Also, is it traditional for a Minangkabau keris to have carvings on the batang (stem) portion of the sarung, as shown in the picture of the bone keris?
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Old 10th June 2017, 09:28 AM   #3
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Hello,
The top kris is a nice and original Minangkabau piece but the bottom one with bone fittings is a recent replica with a very common design.
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Old 10th June 2017, 04:40 PM   #4
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I enclose pictures of original ivory handles and sampir/wrongko that also inspired the "Anglo-Saxon" keris.

These motifs were purported to be Minangkabau.

Can someone comment whether these motifs carved on ivory are traditional Minangkabau designs or a recent artistic expression?

Also, is it traditional for a Minangkabau keris to have carvings on the batang (stem) portion of the sarung, as shown in the picture of the bone keris?
Will you please start new threads when you change the subject of your enquiries.
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Old 10th June 2017, 06:08 PM   #5
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Will you please start new threads when you change the subject of your enquiries.
Well Rick, to be fair, he didn't really change the subject completely with this last entry. If you look you will see that this "Anglo-Saxon" sheath that Alexish has commissioned is the same exact profile form as the authentic ivory Minangkabau sheath that he shows us in this post.
Of course, now we have a Bugis keris in a Minangkabau style sheath (shape) with Anglo-Saxon motifs...my head is spinning just a little bit...
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Old 13th June 2017, 03:16 AM   #6
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Default Carved batangs (stems) of Minangkabau kerises for comments

I enclose more examples of carved batangs (stems) of Minangkabau kerises for comments. Are these traditional designs?
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Old 13th June 2017, 04:23 AM   #7
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You're casting a rather large net on these forums Alexish. What are you hoping to catch?
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Old 13th June 2017, 05:05 AM   #8
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Default Novelty, uniqeness and rarity of sarung designs

As you can infer from my posts, I am particularly interested in rare sarung forms, which I would like to commision from Indonesian carvers.

As a collector, I see that the typical sarung forms of the kerises from the various regions appear to be too commonly focused on a few sterotype designs.

For example in the case of Javanese kerises, 80% to 90% of kerises for sale have sarungs in either the Gayaman or Ladrang Solo form.

Likewise, in th case of Malay or Bugis kerises, more than 90% have sarungs in the typical plain rectangular "Tebeng" form with no floral motifs.

Hence, I am particularly interested in novelty, uniqeness and rarity of sarung designs.
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