North European military sword C.1610-1650

Victrix · 9th May 2017, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cerjak

Hi victrix

Thank you very much for the books reference.
Best

CERJAK

My pleasure, Cerjak. Sorry I can't be more specific about your sword (the first one). In my eyes the knuckle guard design looks too elegant to be Swedish. Swedish weapons have an emphasis on functionality which gives them a particular charm of their own. There were also many Germans serving in Gustavus Adolphus army during the 30 Year War. I attach another photo from Seitz's book, this time of a sword more similar to your second one.

cornelistromp · 10th May 2017, 04:01 PM

it can be a Dutch sword as well, the end of the knuckle guard has the same shape of an animal head as seen on matchlock muskets (fuse holder) from around the first half of the 17th century.

fe see http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=18207

best,
Jasper

midelburgo · 13th June 2018, 01:37 PM

Hi,

in 2005 I bought this sword and since then I have not seen anything like it. Maybe it is a Victorian mongrel. If I remove the branched guard and the ricasso perforated plates, I can imagine I will finish with something similar to the Dutch-Swedish felddegen... but still the pommel will be atypical.

What do you make out of it?

Measurements are something like 117cm total length, 93cm blade and 1495gr total weight. There is a thumb ring. The handle shows wire marks. The front edge seems to have been sharpened more often than the back.

As you can see from the pictures, the hilt is huge and the thing seems to have been constructed to be used with gauntles. It handles nicely with them on.

10th May 2017, 04:01 PM	#2
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,060	it can be a Dutch sword as well, the end of the knuckle guard has the same shape of an animal head as seen on matchlock muskets (fuse holder) from around the first half of the 17th century. fe see http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=18207 best, Jasper Attached Images Last edited by cornelistromp; 11th May 2017 at 03:45 PM.

13th June 2018, 01:37 PM	#3
midelburgo Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 264	Hi, in 2005 I bought this sword and since then I have not seen anything like it. Maybe it is a Victorian mongrel. If I remove the branched guard and the ricasso perforated plates, I can imagine I will finish with something similar to the Dutch-Swedish felddegen... but still the pommel will be atypical. What do you make out of it? Measurements are something like 117cm total length, 93cm blade and 1495gr total weight. There is a thumb ring. The handle shows wire marks. The front edge seems to have been sharpened more often than the back. As you can see from the pictures, the hilt is huge and the thing seems to have been constructed to be used with gauntles. It handles nicely with them on. Attached Images