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Originally Posted by corrado26

The Czerny designation is absolutely correct for this type of knife/dagger, but the dagger shown differs widely from the daggers of Genua origin in my post!
corrado26

However corrado, the point in question is that, this is the same type as that of Marcus item 2, as pointed out in my post #5 .

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Sorry Fernando, but the dagger in post #5 is in my opinion coming from the coast of Liguria.
The Czerny dagger has a totally other blade and resembles more the later Spanish knifes of Albacete. As I wrote before, such daggers were to be found on the isles of Sardinia and Korsika and partly in south eastern Spain too.
But perhaps I am totally wrong and always perpared to learn new things.
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There was no picture in post #5 but only my atempt to identify Marcus item 2.
I am no expert in these things; was only making some association between Italian hunting knives out there plus my own example, with that of Marcus. I realize all three have the same blade approach. But i wouldn't resist any knowledgeable verdict.


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And by the way, i confess i am not fond of including in this Italian knives typology, the so called traditional Albacete cuchillos. But again, i know that i know nothing .


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Ok, this was my mistake, I thought of the dagger in post #4

Originally Posted by fernando

And by the way, i confess i am not fond of including in this Italian knives typology, the so called traditional Albacete daggers.

It was not my intention to say that the daggers in question are coming from Spain, what I said is that the daggers in #4 are coming from the Ligurian coast and that the blades in your last post are more those of knifes than the typical Ligurian daggers. And by the way: The early Albacete daggers have in my eyes a certain resemblance to the ones of Liguria. So in my opinion they are - as I said before - at least influenced by the Italian pieces.
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Originally Posted by corrado26

... The early Albacete daggers have in my eyes a certain resemblance to the ones of Liguria. So in my opinion they are - as I said before - at least influenced by the Italian pieces.
corrado26

Or the other way round, corrado ? We know that they make cutlery in Albacete since the XV century; and they are said to have inherited North African moors techniques. And we also know that Southern Italy has been under Spanish domain from right after that period. It would take time to check on this .

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Originally Posted by fernando

Or the other way round, corrado ? .

Possibly you are right!!
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