Comments will be appreciated, Berger collection

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I should be nice to learn how to distinguish Ligurian (Genovese) knives from those of the South. Interesting to note that Sardinia, where the Genovese type seems to have reached (per corrado), is so Meridional as Southern Italy mainland. Actually another Italian auctioner also from the North (Czerny's), from where my example (indirectly) came, treats these types as Southern, while other sources calls them Meridian, a similar regional attribution. A pity that in "Armi Bianche dal Mediebo all'Eta Moderna" (post #17 of Marcus quoted thread) both Marcus item #2 as well as my example are not shown in their true shape... at least to my eyes .

BTW
Spanish (Albacete) knives, those that so many people out there confuses with plug bayonets, are different animals, of course.


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Another example


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[Norman McCormick]

Hi,
This knife of mine is from the very end of the 18thC, European manufacture for the South American market. The similarities with E on Fernando's chart, the Spanish knife, are easy to see. This form appears to have had a relatively long life span.
Regards,
Norman.

[corrado26]

The Czerny designation is absolutely correct for this type of knife/dagger, but the dagger shown differs widely from the daggers of Genua origin in my post!
corrado26

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Originally Posted by corrado26

The Czerny designation is absolutely correct for this type of knife/dagger, but the dagger shown differs widely from the daggers of Genua origin in my post!
corrado26

However corrado, the point in question is that, this is the same type as that of Marcus item 2, as pointed out in my post #5 .

[corrado26]

Sorry Fernando, but the dagger in post #5 is in my opinion coming from the coast of Liguria.
The Czerny dagger has a totally other blade and resembles more the later Spanish knifes of Albacete. As I wrote before, such daggers were to be found on the isles of Sardinia and Korsika and partly in south eastern Spain too.
But perhaps I am totally wrong and always perpared to learn new things.
corrado26

[fernando]

There was no picture in post #5 but only my atempt to identify Marcus item 2.
I am no expert in these things; was only making some association between Italian hunting knives out there plus my own example, with that of Marcus. I realize all three have the same blade approach. But i wouldn't resist any knowledgeable verdict.


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