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24th April 2017, 10:40 PM
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If those pictures are all you have to go by; speaking for myself I would pass.
 About the broken tip of the knucklebow; I thought those were generally made of steel, in which case it would be quite a hard thing to break. Is there a return guarantee? |
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25th April 2017, 01:29 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: The Aussie Bush
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Be cautious here. Can you handle these or are they being sold to you via the pictures? I would not buy them myself if only the pictures are available.
Ian. |
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25th April 2017, 04:44 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Austria
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It is as Rick said.
The knucklebow is supposed to serve as a protection for the fingers they are normally made of steel in one piece with th cross-guard and the hilt. Whether bone or plastic, the second one is fake. |
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25th April 2017, 07:26 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
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Ok thanks all,
For the ''bone'' hilt kanjar-chilanum, I was comparing with old ''precious'' items with jade, ivory hilt... But indeed never saw a chilanum hilt model not made of steel or metal. I'll look for return guarantee cause I can't handle it ! |
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25th April 2017, 07:58 PM
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Hilt like this one ... ( I found the picture on internet, India 19th )
made of ivory, the fingers protection will not be helpful, purely aesthetic ... |
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26th April 2017, 08:44 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND
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Please do not touch them,they are reproductions from Jodhpur ,Rajasthan
I have seen many appearing in auctions being sold as antiques best regards rajesh |
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26th April 2017, 10:32 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Jerusalem
Posts: 274
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BANDOOK is right
I agree with BANDOOK. Since the typical Jodhpur patterns of folded steel are now recognized by most collectors, "remakes" have become more and more sophisticated. They include many types, like pieces that are made to look old, refitting of real old wootz blades with new hilts and koftgari, cleaning and "redecorating" genuine rusty old pieces and almost every imaginable manipulation. They also appear more and more in secondary markets that are not linked to India directly. Such perfect koftgari on a piece that is supposed to be sveral centuries old should always make you suspicious. Even in the best original pieces, some wear should be visible.
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