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2nd April 2017, 10:07 AM
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There are similar swords from Spain.
In spanish webs are similar, in Google You could search " espada de ceņir Toledo " ordenar "espadin Toledo " Carlos |
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4th April 2017, 08:53 PM
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Hi Jim,
Thanks for having a shot at this. I suspect this is a 19thC continental court sword possibly Iberia or France. The attached images are tagged as French court swords although I couldn't verify the veracity of this opinion. My Regards, Norman. Hi Carlos, Thanks for the links. There are a quite a few similar so I guess we are on the right track. My Regards, Norman. |
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4th April 2017, 09:03 PM
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Very nice sleuthing Norman!!!
This one has been driving me nuts  and as Carlos noted, the hilt style in very much in line with Spanish officers swords, but this classical noir theme is really a puzzle. I found a bronze Chinese sword (B.C.) which had a warrior or human face forward, with the Chinese type dragon heads on each side facing outward in the same configuration. It is clear this is a courtly sword of some kind, and in this sphere (Iberia, France and Italy) classical themes seem to have been employed allegorically quite often in material culture, extending into weaponry fashion. It would be great to find out what this arrangement means, and it is amazing you found these other examples!!! |
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4th April 2017, 10:27 PM
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Another similar sword ...
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4th April 2017, 11:24 PM
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Hi Carlos,
I think you've hit the nail on the head. The first sword C1850 has more or less the same configuration re pommel and crossguard as my sword. I would now say with reasonable confidence that my sword is a Spanish officer's sword from the reign of Isabella II. The blade on mine seems more substantial than those illustrated and being of a reasonable length it may be a dress sword for cavalry rather than infantry. Many thanks for your efforts on my behalf. My Regards, Norman. |
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5th April 2017, 01:25 PM
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Thanks to you , thanks for post this beautiful sword !
best regards carlos |
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6th April 2017, 09:33 AM
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The pommel is familiar enough that I'll add this one I had bought as French. The grip is plastic.
Cheers GC |
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