19th century sword or fake?

Jim McDougall · 13th March 2017, 04:46 AM

Thanks Wayne, I had entirely forgotten about these latter 19th century cavalry swords of the British Army which had become essentially too large to wear as a sidearm, and became a saddle mounted weapon.

These officers sabres were earlier and not of this heavier character as far as I have known, and the M1885 the first I believe to mount on saddle, but actually it doesn't seem nearly as big as the monstrous M1899 and M1908s.

kronckew · 13th March 2017, 08:59 AM

i've seen one german sabre with this double ring scabbard,but it don't think the germans liked them much.

the uk's 1908 looks very much like the 1913 'patton' us army sabre, with very slight differences, mostly in the blade, i suspect the '08 must have influenced patton a bit.

just for interest, here is a 1861P British HAC Light Cavalry officer's sword -with the ubiquitous double ring top mount. (HAC = Honourable Artillery Company)

13th March 2017, 08:59 AM	#2
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,224	i've seen one german sabre with this double ring scabbard,but it don't think the germans liked them much. the uk's 1908 looks very much like the 1913 'patton' us army sabre, with very slight differences, mostly in the blade, i suspect the '08 must have influenced patton a bit. just for interest, here is a 1861P British HAC Light Cavalry officer's sword -with the ubiquitous double ring top mount. (HAC = Honourable Artillery Company) Attached Images Last edited by kronckew; 13th March 2017 at 05:05 PM.

13th March 2017, 04:46 AM	#1
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,295	Thanks Wayne, I had entirely forgotten about these latter 19th century cavalry swords of the British Army which had become essentially too large to wear as a sidearm, and became a saddle mounted weapon. These officers sabres were earlier and not of this heavier character as far as I have known, and the M1885 the first I believe to mount on saddle, but actually it doesn't seem nearly as big as the monstrous M1899 and M1908s.