Very old Moro kris

Battara · 5th March 2017, 02:08 AM

Very nice, congratulations!

Looks like an old late 1700s Sulu kris. I wish I could read the inscription - it looks Spanish like.

David · 5th March 2017, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Very nice, congratulations!

Looks like an old late 1700s Sulu kris. I wish I could read the inscription - it looks Spanish like.

You think that is a language José. Looks like talismanic markings to me.
Unique! Nice find.

Sajen · 5th March 2017, 08:16 AM

Hello CCUAL,

I was the third "high" bidder and have had the hope that it was overseen by others!

Agree with David, I think as well that this are talismanic markings on the blade and with you that it maybe has twistcore in the middle. Are you going to restore the handle?

Jose, do you think that it is indeed old like this? My guess would have been 18th century.

Anyway, great catch! I am green with envy!

Regards,
Detlef

F. de Luzon · 5th March 2017, 09:33 AM

Very nice! Congratulations!

Spunjer · 5th March 2017, 10:13 AM

Wow! great catch!!
looks like a bunch of greater than and less than signs on the blade, although closest to the wide part and the tip, it looks like floral designs. yeah, might be worth checking if it's twistcore or not

mariusgmioc · 5th March 2017, 12:22 PM

My bet is 18th century.

The markings are talismanic and is not a script.

In my oppinion is an attempt to immitate latin script (albeit you can read it like "VIVA" if you insist) - somehow similar to what you can see on Central European blades trying to immitate Arabic script.

ariel · 5th March 2017, 06:15 PM

If you turn it upside down, doesn't the first word look like Viva?
Copied by an illiterate person, which is frequent.

Can you provide an upside down pic of the entire inscription?

5th March 2017, 02:08 AM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Very nice, congratulations! Looks like an old late 1700s Sulu kris. I wish I could read the inscription - it looks Spanish like.

5th March 2017, 08:16 AM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,212	Hello CCUAL, I was the third "high" bidder and have had the hope that it was overseen by others! Agree with David, I think as well that this are talismanic markings on the blade and with you that it maybe has twistcore in the middle. Are you going to restore the handle? Jose, do you think that it is indeed old like this? My guess would have been 18th century. Anyway, great catch! I am green with envy! Regards, Detlef

5th March 2017, 09:33 AM	#4
F. de Luzon Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 184	Very nice! Congratulations!

5th March 2017, 10:13 AM	#5
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	Wow! great catch!! looks like a bunch of greater than and less than signs on the blade, although closest to the wide part and the tip, it looks like floral designs. yeah, might be worth checking if it's twistcore or not

5th March 2017, 12:22 PM	#6
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,911	My bet is 18th century. The markings are talismanic and is not a script. In my oppinion is an attempt to immitate latin script (albeit you can read it like "VIVA" if you insist) - somehow similar to what you can see on Central European blades trying to immitate Arabic script.

5th March 2017, 06:15 PM	#7
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	If you turn it upside down, doesn't the first word look like Viva? Copied by an illiterate person, which is frequent. Can you provide an upside down pic of the entire inscription?