Meccan Mecca Jambiya source

[Kubur]

Well it's a very good example. It's not a Meccan jambiya as defined by collectors, but it's a jambiya from Mecca!
I guess the Meccan jambiya was defined by the ones hold by Lawrence...
Your example has some clear Omani inspirations...
Like this one, an Arab man in Jeddah, 1918...

[Kubur]

https://www.nam.ac.uk/lawrence-arabia-man-behind-robes

[silberschatzimsee]

The 'dagger from Mecca' is for sale again. This time for half of its previous estimates.
I still think it will remain unsold. Those jewels are not inserted symmetrically and that destroys a lot in my opinion,

[mariusgmioc]

Originally Posted by silberschatzimsee

The 'dagger from Mecca' is for sale again. This time for half of its previous estimates.


I still think it will remain unsold. Those jewels are not inserted symmetrically and that destroys a lot in my opinion,

I don't think we are supposed to discuss items that are object of an active sale.

Regards,

Marius

[silberschatzimsee]

ohh ok sorry, then everybody forget my oppinion and only take the notice that it appeared again on the market

[A.alnakkas]

Originally Posted by silberschatzimsee

The 'dagger from Mecca' is for sale again. This time for half of its previous estimates.
I still think it will remain unsold. Those jewels are not inserted symmetrically and that destroys a lot in my opinion,

That is because of all the other daggers posted here, this one is for sure made in Mecca by Bader family who also made the door for the Kaaba and the government issue saif and dagger.

[silberschatzimsee]

Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

That is because of all the other daggers posted here, this one is for sure made in Mecca by Bader family who also made the door for the Kaaba and the government issue saif and dagger.

yeah i know that but the form is apparently not from mecca as i learned now

It didnt sell twice in the last year and last week i saw it again with half of its previous estimates so i posted it again for anybody interrested + plus my personal opinion but that apparently didnt comply to the rules.

[A.alnakkas]

Originally Posted by silberschatzimsee

yeah i know that but the form is apparently not from mecca as i learned now

It didnt sell twice in the last year and last week i saw it again with half of its previous estimates so i posted it again for anybody interrested + plus my personal opinion but that apparently didnt comply to the rules.

Well you'd be surprised how many forms were worn by people who lived in Mecca. This being one of them and the example being a modern one.

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

Well you'd be surprised how many forms were worn by people who lived in Mecca. This being one of them and the example being a modern one.

Yes

And i would like to add that even the so-called Meccan jambiya has strong similarities with jambiya from Western Yemen. It was called Meccan most probably because of the one(s) held by Lawrence. In fact it's all about Yemen and Jews... This shape expended in all the Hijaz and beyond as Hijaz was an Ottoman possession.
Best,
Kubur

[A.alnakkas]

Originally Posted by Kubur

Well it's a very good example. It's not a Meccan jambiya as defined by collectors, but it's a jambiya from Mecca!
I guess the Meccan jambiya was defined by the ones hold by Lawrence...
Your example has some clear Omani inspirations...
Like this one, an Arab man in Jeddah, 1918...

This particular Sharif resided in Jeddah. (message rendered pointless because I missed the last part)