![]()  | 
	
| 
			
			 | 
		#1 | 
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
			Join Date: Apr 2011 
				Location: Moscow, Russia 
				
				
					Posts: 430
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			What kind of dagger you see? 
		
		
		
			Muhammad Ali Wallajah (r.1749-1795), the Nawab of Arcot and the Carnatic. http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O1...-kettle-tilly/  | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#2 | |
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
				
			
			Join Date: Sep 2014 
				Location: Austria 
				
				
					Posts: 1,912
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 Quote: 
	
   However, if I were to guess, I would assume it is the hilt of a "Mughal" dagger.  | 
|
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#3 | |
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
				
			
			Join Date: Aug 2014 
				Location: Germany 
				
				
					Posts: 525
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 Quote: 
	
 I checked the link and the dagger is indeed pretty unusual to my eyes. Looks like a Tulwar hilt with a dagger blade. Maybe Jens Nordlunde as a real and passionate expert of Indian arms is able to add something sensible. Roland  | 
|
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#4 | 
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
				
			
			Join Date: Dec 2004 
				Location: Europe 
				
				
					Posts: 2,718
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			No I dont think it is a tulwar hilt, but I cant tell you what it is, befoore having seen the blade as well.
		 
		
		
		
			 | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#5 | 
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
				
			
			Join Date: Jun 2013 
				
				
				
					Posts: 2,145
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			a kukri maybe?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#6 | |
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
			Join Date: Apr 2011 
				Location: Moscow, Russia 
				
				
					Posts: 430
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 Quote: 
	
  
		 | 
|
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#7 | |
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
				
			
			Join Date: Sep 2014 
				Location: Austria 
				
				
					Posts: 1,912
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 Quote: 
	
 Trade was known to South India as well. It's not they were an insulated island. However, as long as we don't have any clue about the shape of the blade, I believe this whole discussion is pointless.  
		 | 
|
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#8 | 
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
				
			
			Join Date: Dec 2004 
				Location: Ann Arbor, MI 
				
				
					Posts: 5,503
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			Somehow I am recalling a scene from an old-forgotten book  about  engagement party (?) in one of the Islamic countries: the potential bride, wrapped from head to toe in black, cautiously extends her pinkie outside... and the boy madly falls in love !!!!! And I am not talking about the potential effect of a coquettish glance:-) The truth is unfortunately revealed after the wedding..... 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Moreover, this painting was obviously made by a European artist. The veracity of his rendition is questionable as we have discussed in earlier topics. My guess he had a tulwar in his studio and reworked the image into something suitable ( in his opinion) for a dagger. Artistic license is not usually frowned upon:-))) Last edited by ariel; 23rd February 2017 at 09:25 PM.  | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
![]()  | 
	
	
		
  | 
	
		
  |