Torador once again.

[rickystl]

Hi Richard.

OK....You beat me to it. YAY !!! VERY COOL !!! Wonder how long it's been since it was fired ? Lol. Congratulations.
Yes, sounds like the bore needs some more work. The scale can be especially difficult. What I use to use, and still sometimes do, is a modern shotgun hone. I found that just going back and forth, manually with the hone works much better then the Emory. And cuts faster. Even better, the hone using a drill with a VERY SLOW rpm setting. They are hard to find nowadays. The slow rpm with even motion is less likely to form rings. At least that's been my experience. Works great especially with pistol length smooth bore barrels.
On long barrels, I send them to the barrel smith. He has special tools and jigs to burnish a barrel in about 10 minutes. And can do barrels up to 72 inches. And very reasonable.
The "colored" leather bands is a good idea !!! I think red would look good. But any color would probably look good. Yes, I would go with the color versus the brown or tan.
Oh good. Sarah took some pics !!! Can't wait to see the finished gun. A smoother bore and closer fitting ball will probably reduce those 50 yard groups in half.

Rick

[David R]

According to my reading and observation the bands should be rawhide, bound over silver saddle pieces so that the hide (put on wet) does not directly touch the barrel.

[Pukka Bundook]

David,

On post 27 I believe in the previous page, there are two from Jaipur shown that have leather bindings and no saddles.

Eggerton has the bindings down as "leather" and Elgood shows examples of what Looks like leather, with no saddles in both the "Islamic Arms", and "Jaipur ", (The bindings also described as leather) so it would appear that India is up to its usual tricks, of being fickle in what we should expect. :-)

I will look for rawhide and saddles, and indeed Have seen the saddle bands and have a couple with those, but not the rawhide.
If you have some pictures of these ,I would appreciate seeing them!

All the best,
Richard.

[rickystl]

Hi Richard.

I have some close up pics of the saddles. I'll post this weekend when I return from out of town.

Rick

[Pukka Bundook]

Rick,

Forgot to thank you for your ideas on cleaning up the bore. Thank you!
Will try it again and see how it goes nowI have given it another scouring out.
If it still feels rough when loading, I will find some hones I have "somewhere"!

I have a matchlock with these saddle bands, but have not seen David's saddles he mentions.
See below;

[David R]

They're described in "Stone's Glossary", and he also mentions that the binding over them can be wire.... I think that you can use near anything on a Torador, they vary so much.

[rickystl]

Hi Richard.

If you go to my Thread from January 14, and look at photo #6 and #12, you will see the so called re-enforcement saddles under two of the barrel bands on my Torador. But I believe the primary use for these was to help support the METAL bands. The reinforcing bands would not be necessary if you are using leather bindings. You could also simply use a thin piece of DRY flat leather on top of the barrel portion before wrapping the DAMP leather lacing (?). Just a thought.

Rick http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...d=161399&stc=1

[rickystl]

Originally Posted by Pukka Bundook

Rick,

Forgot to thank you for your ideas on cleaning up the bore. Thank you!
Will try it again and see how it goes nowI have given it another scouring out.
If it still feels rough when loading, I will find some hones I have "somewhere"!

I have a matchlock with these saddle bands, but have not seen David's saddles he mentions.
See below;

Hi Richard.

Finally back home. LOL That barrel band looks Afghan to me. You see this style on Jazails. But I still like the colored leather bands idea.
Shotgun Hone: There are a couple different ones out there. Here is a pic of the one I use. The stones actually pivet as you go back and forth in the bore. Would also automatically adjust to get the slightly smaller restricted area. They are very inexpensive, and you can purchase extra stone sets. Works great even by hand. Just twist as you go back and forth. They also make a polishing tool with compound.

Rick