What is it?

Sajen · 12th February 2017, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Nope, Alan cannot add much to this.

Hello Alan,

I've thought that you will be able to tell more about the origin from the taji box!

Regards,
Detlef

A. G. Maisey · 12th February 2017, 11:56 AM

Sorry, I misunderstood.

Do you mean Machinist's taji box?

If so, to me, the embossing work looks more Bali than Jawa.

Jawa embossing work is seldom, if ever, as deep as this.

I'd guess it as Bali, but in this instance anybody's guess is as good as mine.

Sajen · 12th February 2017, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Sorry, I misunderstood.

Do you mean Machinist's taji box?

If so, to me, the embossing work looks more Bali than Jawa.

Jawa embossing work is seldom, if ever, as deep as this.

I'd guess it as Bali, but in this instance anybody's guess is as good as mine.

Yup, I've meant Machinist's taji box, since I was not sure because I've never seen such a taji box.

Regards,
Detlef

A. G. Maisey · 12th February 2017, 09:33 PM

Neither have I, but I have seen a hell of a lot of Jogja and Bali embossing.

Athanase · 25th March 2017, 03:31 PM

Here is my example of Taji from Bali (according to the description off the auction house).
Unfortunately, only one blade remains.
Traces of oxidation suggest that the box was originally articulated by bronze hinges

Bob A · 24th July 2021, 09:58 PM

Newly arrived. Supposedly from Bali, late 19th-early 20th century?. Very sharp.

These seem hard to come by in these seemingly decadent times/places.

A. G. Maisey · 26th July 2021, 02:22 PM

They are Bob.

Very.

I have not seen taji in Bali for years & years, and after they were banned, any that did appear for sale changed hands at absolutely ridiculous prices.

SidJ · 6th September 2021, 09:51 PM

Really enjoyed reading this. I dont own cock fighting spurs but used to own and raise fighting cocks many years ago. The birds that are fought with these spurs are very very different to those fought using their natural spurs. They are lighter and more feathered so they can fly higher and strike much faster. The natural spurred fighters have a pedigree going back to around 2500 years in India. They are heavy hitters like heavyweight boxers and have the gameness bred into them so they will never run away and will fight to the death. There are different rules too to these different fights but the former ends in a very short time. Luck plays a huge role too. In the natural spurs the fight goes on for a while and only rarely ends in a birds death with the owner usually conceding defeat before this happens and the bird living to fight another day. Birds use various strategies like coming up under the wings to strike etc and are bred for such attributes. I could go on. But it's nice to see these spurs. It's triggered memories from long ago. I dont condone animal cruelty though. I raised these to play my part in preserving an ancient breed of fighting fowl that is sadly quite vulnerable to being lost forever.

25th March 2017, 03:31 PM	#5
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 420	Here is my example of Taji from Bali (according to the description off the auction house). Unfortunately, only one blade remains. Traces of oxidation suggest that the box was originally articulated by bronze hinges Attached Images

24th July 2021, 09:58 PM	#6
Bob A Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 436	Newly arrived. Supposedly from Bali, late 19th-early 20th century?. Very sharp. These seem hard to come by in these seemingly decadent times/places. Attached Images

12th February 2017, 11:56 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Sorry, I misunderstood. Do you mean Machinist's taji box? If so, to me, the embossing work looks more Bali than Jawa. Jawa embossing work is seldom, if ever, as deep as this. I'd guess it as Bali, but in this instance anybody's guess is as good as mine.

12th February 2017, 09:33 PM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Neither have I, but I have seen a hell of a lot of Jogja and Bali embossing.

26th July 2021, 02:22 PM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	They are Bob. Very. I have not seen taji in Bali for years & years, and after they were banned, any that did appear for sale changed hands at absolutely ridiculous prices.

6th September 2021, 09:51 PM	#8
SidJ Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 207	Really enjoyed reading this. I dont own cock fighting spurs but used to own and raise fighting cocks many years ago. The birds that are fought with these spurs are very very different to those fought using their natural spurs. They are lighter and more feathered so they can fly higher and strike much faster. The natural spurred fighters have a pedigree going back to around 2500 years in India. They are heavy hitters like heavyweight boxers and have the gameness bred into them so they will never run away and will fight to the death. There are different rules too to these different fights but the former ends in a very short time. Luck plays a huge role too. In the natural spurs the fight goes on for a while and only rarely ends in a birds death with the owner usually conceding defeat before this happens and the bird living to fight another day. Birds use various strategies like coming up under the wings to strike etc and are bred for such attributes. I could go on. But it's nice to see these spurs. It's triggered memories from long ago. I dont condone animal cruelty though. I raised these to play my part in preserving an ancient breed of fighting fowl that is sadly quite vulnerable to being lost forever.