Two Large Mystery Knives

kai · 11th January 2017, 08:37 PM

Hello Detlef,

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The knife with the horn handle is indeed most interesting and I remember an old thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=Luzon

Thanks for pointing this out! I believe the style does show way more differences than similarities though...

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And Ian is correct, the ferrule isn't what point to the Philippines but maybe Chinese or Vietnam like the base of the blade. This base style you can find by Chinese daggers. So maybe indeed Vietnam?

Mind you, it could be from any of the many, many China towns scattered all over SE Asia; it's just a matter of probabilities and my 3 suggestions would fit into the period (certainly several more possibilities within Southern Vietnam though depending on where the GI was stationed).

Regards,
Kai

KuKulzA28 · 12th January 2017, 06:26 AM

The second knife with the wrapping on the sheath reminds me of the type of wrapping often used by the Taiwanese aborigines of the western plains (Ping Pu) esp. with Han influence.

The mouth of the sheath reminds me of southern Chinese (guangdong, fujian, zheijiang) sheaths and scabbards...

the metal-work on that handle... not sure, but makes me think Chinese influenced SE Asian...

drac2k · 12th January 2017, 03:13 PM

Pictures as promised.

Sajen · 12th January 2017, 05:32 PM

Hi Drac2k,

thank you for the additional pictures. I would liked to have seen close-ups from the handle material, on one of your first pictures I could come to the impression that it could be rhino horn, so I've asked for flash pictures, I've learned that you can identify rhino horn better by pictures as by pure eyes.
But the scabbard mouth show much Vietnam or Chinese influence. Would like to see the round sign at the scabbard hidden by cord.

BTW, it's a very nice knife!

Regards,
Detlef

drac2k · 12th January 2017, 08:51 PM

Thanks Detlef.I tried to gently push the cord down, but it wouldn't budge, and I didn't want to possibly ruin it. I get it now, you want a picture using the flash of the camera for the handle.I'll try to post one soon.

drac2k · 12th January 2017, 10:56 PM

Pictures as requested.

Sajen · 12th January 2017, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by drac2k

Pictures as requested.

I am not really sure about but I think that it isn't rhino by your hilt. See this Thai enep from my own collection, I come first time to the idea that it is rhino after I've seen this own image: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...highlight=enep

You will understand now why I've asked for this pictures.

12th January 2017, 03:13 PM	#3
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,258	Pictures as promised. Attached Images

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drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,258	Pictures as requested. Attached Images

12th January 2017, 06:26 AM	#2
KuKulzA28 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: between work and sleep Posts: 731	The second knife with the wrapping on the sheath reminds me of the type of wrapping often used by the Taiwanese aborigines of the western plains (Ping Pu) esp. with Han influence. The mouth of the sheath reminds me of southern Chinese (guangdong, fujian, zheijiang) sheaths and scabbards... the metal-work on that handle... not sure, but makes me think Chinese influenced SE Asian...

12th January 2017, 05:32 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,212	Hi Drac2k, thank you for the additional pictures. I would liked to have seen close-ups from the handle material, on one of your first pictures I could come to the impression that it could be rhino horn, so I've asked for flash pictures, I've learned that you can identify rhino horn better by pictures as by pure eyes. But the scabbard mouth show much Vietnam or Chinese influence. Would like to see the round sign at the scabbard hidden by cord. BTW, it's a very nice knife! Regards, Detlef

12th January 2017, 08:51 PM	#5
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,258	Thanks Detlef.I tried to gently push the cord down, but it wouldn't budge, and I didn't want to possibly ruin it. I get it now, you want a picture using the flash of the camera for the handle.I'll try to post one soon.