Unknown Islamic Wootz? Sword

Kubur · 18th December 2016, 06:58 PM

Hi Norman,

It's easy, you have just to look at your own posts!

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...highlight=pala

It's an Austrian/Hungarian sword with very strong Ottoman influences.
Look also at the Magnate swords...

Kind regards,
Kubur

Norman McCormick · 18th December 2016, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi Norman,

It's easy, you have just to look at your own posts!

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...highlight=pala

It's an Austrian/Hungarian sword with very strong Ottoman influences.
Look also at the Magnate swords...

Kind regards,
Kubur

Hi Kubur,
The similarities were not lost on me especially the three stars and crescent moon motif but I did not want to 'jump the gun' and wanted to wait for members ideas. I did look at Hungarian magnate swords but the fittings seemed a little plain but maybe not. Thanks as always for replying.
My Regards,
Norman.

Norman McCormick · 18th December 2016, 07:24 PM

Hi Kai,
The fittings are certainly not that recent as they are pretty dinged about, to my mind anyway, but this is out of my sphere of knowledge. If it is an Austro-Hungarian concoction then it probably won't be wootz. Thanks for replying.
My Regards,
Norman.

Battara · 18th December 2016, 11:36 PM

I too was thinking the region of Hungary.

mariusgmioc · 19th December 2016, 09:35 AM

Hello Norman,

The blade is clearly layered laminated and not wootz. And it appears to be acid etched, not chiseled/engraved.

As with respect to the geographical location, that may be very tricky as it lacks clearly defining characteristics allowing a certain geographical location. The blade may be Ottoman, but also Hungarian or Eastern European... I guess...

My guess is that it is not older than early 20th century.

But this is only my guess...

Regards,

Marius

PS: The scabbard fittings appear to be of ordinary white metal (like pewter). I am inclined to see this sword as a tourist souvenir, but that is my perception based on my own standards.

19th December 2016, 09:35 AM	#5
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,911	Hello Norman, The blade is clearly layered laminated and not wootz. And it appears to be acid etched, not chiseled/engraved. As with respect to the geographical location, that may be very tricky as it lacks clearly defining characteristics allowing a certain geographical location. The blade may be Ottoman, but also Hungarian or Eastern European... I guess... My guess is that it is not older than early 20th century. But this is only my guess... Regards, Marius PS: The scabbard fittings appear to be of ordinary white metal (like pewter). I am inclined to see this sword as a tourist souvenir, but that is my perception based on my own standards. Last edited by mariusgmioc; 19th December 2016 at 10:17 AM.

18th December 2016, 06:58 PM	#1
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi Norman, It's easy, you have just to look at your own posts! http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...highlight=pala It's an Austrian/Hungarian sword with very strong Ottoman influences. Look also at the Magnate swords... Kind regards, Kubur

18th December 2016, 07:24 PM	#3
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,633	Hi Kai, The fittings are certainly not that recent as they are pretty dinged about, to my mind anyway, but this is out of my sphere of knowledge. If it is an Austro-Hungarian concoction then it probably won't be wootz. Thanks for replying. My Regards, Norman.

18th December 2016, 11:36 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,310	I too was thinking the region of Hungary.