Any Amazon collectors?

[Tim Simmons]

That link seems not working now, so I have saved the pictures and add them in this reply.

[colin henshaw]

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

That link seems not working now, so I have saved the pictures and add them in this reply.

Some interesting sculptural club forms Tim, thanks for posting. What institution is it ?

[VANDOO]

I AM GLAD TO SEE THE PICTURES POSTED SITES AND PICTURES OFTEN GO MISSING LEAVING US WITH A GAP IN FORUM POSTS. I DIDN'T GET A TRANSLATION ON THESE PICTURES BUT FROM WHAT I SAW IT APPEARS THEY ARE KAYAPO TRIBE BRAZIL. A NICE RANGE OF EXCELLENT EXAMPLES.

[Tim Simmons]

These pictures are from the; Memorial of Indigenous Peoples - Brasilia DF 2016

[Tim Simmons]

I have been lucky to acquire another Wayana club. Which prompted more searching for information on the form. Finally I used the right wording and found all I need in a dissertation from Florida University for a doctorate.

The club is known as a Kapalu carried by chief/shaman important enough to be carried on the shoulder of a minion to event of use. It is a war club but ceremonial representing awesome power not unlike nuclear weapons in our minds. The spike end is used to support the club upright in the grouned by the hammock of the chief. The real use of these and war clubs has more or less ended at the close of the 20th century. The link has so much information. The most relevant pages are 372-374 for greater learning.

The new acquisition is the dark painted example. From the shipping cost I think it is made from a soft light wood which is usual, the other example is a heavy hard wood. Lesser quality versions are made as trade items.

http://etd.fcla.edu/UF/UFE0041100/duin_r.pdf

This example is from French Guiana. This Christian mission site like has some interesting stats:

http://www.peoplegroups.org/explore/...=16344#topmenu

Yet more Stats

https://intercontinentalcry.org/indi...eoples/wayana/

Missionary with Wayana 1955

[Tim Simmons]

Here now and is made of a lighter weight of wood. I must research the patterns as they do have a meaning.

[Tim Simmons]

I am changing my mind on the exact function of this new addition to my Amazon collection. I have found more useful information in;

The British Museum Publication, "Unknown Amazon" 2001. Chapter 11, One Blow Scatters the Brains, Warwick Bray. Retired Professor of Latin American Archaeology at the institute of Archaeology, University College London. He has conducted field work in Colombia {including Colombia Amazonas} and Ecuador, and a specialist in the study of Pre- Columbian metalwork. HE authored "The Gold of El Dorado 1977" and co-edited "The Archaeology of Mesoamerica: Mexican and European Perspectives"

I have uploaded the relevant pages and hope I am not breaking any forum rules {if so please inform me so I can rearrange the text} Note where the page turns. The fact is that the distinction between ceremonial and war club can be blurred. Reading this fact made me look again at the new club. Perhaps it is not as light and soft wood as I first assumed. Her it is shown with a PNG Kukukuku club. The PNG club weighs 950 g and clearly a weapon. The Wayana club weighs 1.140 kg. This club is also comfortable in the hand. The old unpainted Wayana club is an unwieldy 2.005 kg and the handle is just that much smaller and carved in a shape that is not comfortable to grip for serious use. So I have changed my opinion on the latest Wayana club, it is of fighting weight being able to deliver as much brain scattering blows as many nut brown heavily patina collector must have clubs. I could show many with it. Happy happy