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7th November 2016, 12:38 PM
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Hi Evgeny,
Personally i had never seen such kind of device, nor i am certain how it goes. Is it to introduce the scabbard into that slot and hang the hook on the belt ... in what position ? Sorry for ignorance  .
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7th November 2016, 02:58 PM
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Hi Fernando!
Here are some pics (I'm not sure if it drawn correctly): Last edited by Evgeny_K; 7th November 2016 at 04:04 PM. |
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7th November 2016, 02:59 PM
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This, if I am not mistaken, the Afghan belt with various accessories
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7th November 2016, 03:00 PM
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Italian (?) circa 1450-1500 (??) hook (picture from the web)
Last edited by Evgeny_K; 7th November 2016 at 04:08 PM. |
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7th November 2016, 03:28 PM
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Oh, i see now.
Most interesting; thank you for the enlightening pictures. Certainly an old example, being bronze and so stylized. I wonder if now some member comes up with comments on it. |
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7th November 2016, 03:28 PM
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I wouldn't equate the term 'ignorance' with you Fernando! and I have to say this unusual item is something I have never seen nor thought of! It is curious that one of these is notably present but vacant in the great illustration of the individual posted by Eugeny. So what in the world would b placed on these hooks? Even the assemblage of kit in the next illustration does not reveal what kind of accoutrement would be hung on this as far as I can see. Great research though Eugeny , in finding that Italian example. Clearly a well established form of item long in use so it will be great to learn more on them. Thank you! |
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7th November 2016, 04:15 PM
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Just for the fun ... a fantasy.
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7th November 2016, 06:40 PM
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I suppose that this hook was designed to dismounted horseman could fasten his sword on it |
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7th November 2016, 07:37 PM
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So ...
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7th November 2016, 08:47 PM
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yes. the length of the two straps is optimised for horseback, when you dismount you hang the upper ring with the shorter strap off the hook on the belt. most US army/navy belts have a built in brass hook for this purpose. jeb stuart (CSA cavalry) made a lot of money by selling a brass device with a hook for suspending your sabre by placing the hook over your belt from underneath the belt). the two leather straps were fastened to slots at the base, which included a hook such as we speak about here. it was designed so a gentleman officer could more easily remove his sword before dining, and rapidly replace it after. the chain hanger is for a us sword with only one scabbard ring. the hook is facing staright out at you.
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7th November 2016, 09:21 PM
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Wayne, outstanding!
There you have it.....its a cinch hook for sword carry dismounted. JEB Stuart! and Confederate cavalry, brilliant 
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