Java kris for discussion

David · 4th November 2016, 11:01 PM

Thanks Alan. I do understand that the wayang are seen in this light, but seeing it on BOTH wrongko AND the pendok made me wonder if perhaps the previous owner had a particular association with the wayang theatre. Your explanation was most helpful.

David · 4th November 2016, 11:03 PM

BTW Naga, you hilt is oriented the wrong way. It should be twisted 180º in the opposite direction.

A. G. Maisey · 5th November 2016, 05:14 AM

When we talk about associations with wayang, we're really only talking about the dalang, the puppet master, yes, they do wear a keris during the performance, but I doubt very much that one would wear a sunggingan, it would be more likely to be a pusaka, or if not that, just an ordinary dress keris, nothing as fancy as this sunggingan.I feel that perhaps a collector may have had this one put together for his own enjoyment, and hit upon the idea of the wayang motif in the pendok.

David · 5th November 2016, 03:39 PM

Thanks Alan. Makes sense.

4th November 2016, 11:01 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	Thanks Alan. I do understand that the wayang are seen in this light, but seeing it on BOTH wrongko AND the pendok made me wonder if perhaps the previous owner had a particular association with the wayang theatre. Your explanation was most helpful.

4th November 2016, 11:03 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	BTW Naga, you hilt is oriented the wrong way. It should be twisted 180º in the opposite direction.

5th November 2016, 05:14 AM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	When we talk about associations with wayang, we're really only talking about the dalang, the puppet master, yes, they do wear a keris during the performance, but I doubt very much that one would wear a sunggingan, it would be more likely to be a pusaka, or if not that, just an ordinary dress keris, nothing as fancy as this sunggingan.I feel that perhaps a collector may have had this one put together for his own enjoyment, and hit upon the idea of the wayang motif in the pendok.

5th November 2016, 03:39 PM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	Thanks Alan. Makes sense.