Yataghan for translation and comment

Miguel · 7th August 2016, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

Thank you very much for your oppinion! That was my first thought too.

Well, have a look at Elgood's book and let me know what you think afterwards!

Have a nice weekend!

Hi Marius, sorry for the delayed reply my book got lost but now I have it and looked at the Cretan Yataghans I see why you thought it may be from there as there are similarities, I really don't know what to think. It still feels Turkish to me but I think your earlier comment about possibly never being able to establish the true origin may prove to be correct. It is a pity that no one has been able to offer a translation it is such a splendid piece.
Regards
Miguel

Kubur · 7th August 2016, 09:38 PM

Hi,
It's not a Greek yataghan, I think it's a Turkish one.
I attach some photos of a Greek one, sold recently.
One of the most beautifull that I have ever seen (look at the church on the scabbard). And it's funny to see that the blade is Ottoman...of course...
Unfortunatly I don't have any photo of the complete sword...
Sorry it's not mine but i wish...
Kubur

mariusgmioc · 8th August 2016, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi,
It's not a Greek yataghan, I think it's a Turkish one.
I attach some photos of a Greek one, sold recently.
One of the most beautifull that I have ever seen (look at the church on the scabbard). And it's funny to see that the blade is Ottoman...of course...
Unfortunatly I don't have any photo of the complete sword...
Sorry it's not mine but i wish...
Kubur

Beautiful indeed! Thank you very much for the photos!

As with regards to the origins of Balkan/Turkish weapons, i am afraid that in too many instances it would be almost impossible to ascertain a precise origin, with reasonable certainty.

We can only say that is an Ottoman Yataghan, probably Turkish... or Balkans... or Greece...

Kubur · 8th August 2016, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

Beautiful indeed! Thank you very much for the photos!

As with regards to the origins of Balkan/Turkish weapons, i am afraid that in too many instances it would be almost impossible to ascertain a precise origin, with reasonable certainty.

We can only say that is an Ottoman Yataghan, probably Turkish... or Balkans... or Greece...

Hi Marius,
mmmmmmmm...I'll just remove Greece form the Balkan area...
Just my opinion...

mariusgmioc · 8th August 2016, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi Marius,
mmmmmmmm...I'll just remove Greece form the Balkan area...
Just my opinion...

I know, but if you have a look at Elgood's book on weapons from Greece, you'll find some very similar Yataghans atributted to Greece...

estcrh · 8th August 2016, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

I know, but if you have a look at Elgood's book on weapons from Greece, you'll find some very similar Yataghans atributted to Greece...

I have yet to find a scabbard that is like yours, all of the ones I have seen had bands around the throat, yours seems to be unusual. Here is an example of what is said to be a Greek yatagan compared to yours.

eftihis · 8th August 2016, 05:49 PM

Hi, this last one "it said to be greek" yataghan, is clearly an algerian yataghan.
Some comments: Not all Greece had the same style, since they were no borders and the influences/parts/ and craftpeople travelled freely.
Second, untill a few years ago, there have been a lot of Greek buyers with money and interest in these kind of weapons, so the sellers were happy to "baptise" everything "greek" since it sell better. The yataghan posted by Kubur is a Greek one, propably of a post-revolution era (after 1830)

7th August 2016, 09:38 PM	#2
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi, It's not a Greek yataghan, I think it's a Turkish one. I attach some photos of a Greek one, sold recently. One of the most beautifull that I have ever seen (look at the church on the scabbard). And it's funny to see that the blade is Ottoman...of course... Unfortunatly I don't have any photo of the complete sword... Sorry it's not mine but i wish... Kubur Attached Images

8th August 2016, 05:49 PM	#7
eftihis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 512	Hi, this last one "it said to be greek" yataghan, is clearly an algerian yataghan. Some comments: Not all Greece had the same style, since they were no borders and the influences/parts/ and craftpeople travelled freely. Second, untill a few years ago, there have been a lot of Greek buyers with money and interest in these kind of weapons, so the sellers were happy to "baptise" everything "greek" since it sell better. The yataghan posted by Kubur is a Greek one, propably of a post-revolution era (after 1830)