Afghan Pulowar blade type?

[mariusgmioc]

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

While the brief responses are quite correct, I thought it might be helpful to offer a few extra words to explain why this blade is Indian for others who read here and future researchers.

Thank you very much for the explanations!

At least for me, they are most welcomed.

[Jim McDougall]

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

Thank you very much for the explanations!

At least for me, they are most welcomed.

As is your most courteous response and I appreciate your sharing this example here to present the opportunity .

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Afghanistan. Against the light blue background and Enfield blade on a 'Paluoar'

[mariusgmioc]

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[mariusgmioc]

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Afghanistan. Against the light blue background and Enfield blade on a 'Paluoar'

Thanks for the photos!

The blade of the first one is absolutely stunning... and I mean WOW!

Any idea where might that blade come from?

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

Thanks for the photos!

The blade of the first one is absolutely stunning... and I mean WOW!

Any idea where might that blade come from?

This type of blade is quite unusual as the slots in the blade can carry pearls...which slide up and down... I think it is called the blade/tears of the afflicted or something like that. The Chinese incorporated this design but it is often also seen in Afghan/Persian/ Indian blades. See http://thomaschen.freewebspace.com/photo2.html for the Chinese link ....and as good as it gets this is discussed with excellent detail at Forum Library http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ears+afflicted
Some observe the decorative nature and I agree with that..as well as the technology in engineering such a blade. The blade also seen in the second picture looks classy and since it has both a great cartouche and magic squares as well as having the appearance of wootz;...a nice weapon..

[mariusgmioc]

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

This type of blade is quite unusual as the slots in the blade can carry pearls...which slide up and down... I think it is called the blade/tears of the afflicted or something like that. The Chinese incorporated this design but it is often also seen in Afghan/Persian/ Indian blades. See http://thomaschen.freewebspace.com/photo2.html for the Chinese link ....and as good as it gets this is discussed with excellent detail at Forum Library http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ears+afflicted
Some observe the decorative nature and I agree with that..as well as the technology in engineering such a blade. The blade also seen in the second picture looks classy and since it has both a great cartouche and magic squares as well as having the appearance of wootz;...a nice weapon..

Hello Ibrahiim and thank you for the explanations but I don't see any slots with the "tears of the wounded," only fullers.


I also think the appearance of wootz is given by very fine pattern welding since the streaks of patternig are much too long and run more or less paralel to eachother.

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

Hello Ibrahiim and thank you for the explanations but I don't see any slots with the "tears of the wounded," only fullers.


I also think the appearance of wootz is given by very fine pattern welding since the streaks of patternig are much too long and run more or less paralel to eachother.

This is a confusing blade, it has a radical curve, the fullers look crudely done like they were gouged out, yet there are gold / brass inserts all along the back edge, fold lines run through it from one end to the other. I have been looking but have not seen another one quite like it, I was thinking Persian but that is just a guess.

By the way, yours is a very nice example, you are on a winning streak lately.

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

Hello Ibrahiim and thank you for the explanations but I don't see any slots with the "tears of the wounded," only fullers.


I also think the appearance of wootz is given by very fine pattern welding since the streaks of patternig are much too long and run more or less paralel to eachother.

I confess to not knowing what style of wootz is the blade...maybe as you point out.

The pearl slots are empty...but the access holes into which the pearls are placed are visible... I assume the pearls fell out of this one...