shark tooth weapon.

VANDOO · 24th May 2016, 04:58 PM

A FEW MORE PICTURES OF SHARK TOOTH WEAPONS, TOOLS AND ARMOR. THE FIRST 4 PICTURES ARE FROM THE MUSEUM IN AUCKLAND NEW ZEALAND WHICH HAS MORE MAORI AND OTHER OCEANIC WEAPONS AND ART ON DISPLAY THAN ANY OTHER I HAVE VISITED AND SHOULD NOT BE MISSED IF YOU ARE EVER THERE. PICTURE #5 IS FROM THE CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND MUSEUM AND SHOWS 2 LONG EXAMPLES OF THE TOOTHED SPEARS. #6. I TRIED TO CLEAN UP A PICTURE POSTED PREVIOUSLY OF COMBAT. MY CAMERA AND MY PHOTO SKILLS ARE LACKING SO I APOLOGIZE FOR PICTURE QUALITY. JUDGING FROM THE MUSEUM DATA BASE SOURCES, THE MAJORITY OF THEIR ARTIFACTS ARE NOT ON DISPLAY, BUT IN STORAGE. THE ONE WITH THE MOST AND LARGEST VARIETY ON DISPLAY WAS THE MUSEUM IN AUCKLAND THE DISPLAYS IN CHRISTCHURCH WERE VERY GOOD FOR MAORI ITEMS. THE NATIONAL MUSEUM IN WELLINGTON HAS LESS ON DISPLAY BUT SOME ITEMS WITH IMPORTANT MAORI HISTORICAL PROVENANCE. ALL THREE ARE VERY GOOD AND SHOULD NOT BE MISSED. THE MUSEUM IN DUNEDIN IS MOSTLY TRANSPORTATION RELATED BUT DOES HAVE SOME MAORI ITEMS ON DISPLAY. THERE ARE INTERESTING SMALL LOCAL MUSEUMS LOCATED IN SMALLER TOWNS THRU-OUT NEW ZEALAND. A WONDERFUL COUNTRY TO VISIT AND I SUSPECT TO LIVE IN.

Shakethetrees · 25th May 2016, 05:28 PM

Last year I visited the Peabody Museum at Harvard. It had been about forty years since I last visited and remember viewing a group of Gilbert Islands weapons and fiber armor.

I didn't have great hope things would be the same, since these days museums have gotten away from dusty glass cases filled with relics to highlighting single objects with some sort of interpretive display nearby.

But, to my surprise, it's still on display, along with a fair amount of other weapons and ethnographic material.

If you ever find yourself in The Boston area, it might be worth your time to go for a visit. But, beware! Parking anywhere nearby is an absolute nightmare!

Sorry the image is a little out of focus. Shooting through glass with lights everywhere is tricky!

VANDOO · 26th May 2016, 03:48 AM

THANKS FOR POSTING THIS EXAMPLE OF THE ARMOR IT SHOWS HOW THE SECTION WITH THE LARGE SECTION TO PROTECT THE BACK OF THE HEAD IS ATTACHED AND THE EXTRA PROTECTION IT GIVES TO THE SIDES AND KIDNEYS.
SEVERAL OF THESE SETS OF ARMOR HAVE VERY FEW BLACK DESIGNS LIKE THE ONE YOU POST WHILE OTHERS HAVE QUITE A LOT. I WONDER IF THEY DENOTE THE RANK OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR THE NUMBER OF TIMES HE HAS FOUGHT OR HIS TEAM (TRIBE, VILLAGE OR ISLAND) ? NOTE THE DESIGNS ON THE TWO WARRIORS IN ARMOR IN THE PICTURE OF THE FIGHT ABOVE. SOME PICTURES FOR COMPARISON USE THE PICTURES IN POSTS ABOVE ALSO. NOTE THAT THE DESIGN APPEARS TO BE DIAMOND SHAPED IN MANY BUT ARE SHAPED LIKE FISH IN ONE EXAMPLE.
#1. SUIT IN AUCKLAND MUSEUM MUCH LIKE YOUR EXAMPLE
#2. LISTED AS FROM THE GILBERT ISLANDS
#3. LISTED AS GILBERT IS.
#4. LISTED AS KIRIBATI WARRIORS, LOOKS LIKE THE SAME GROUP POSED FOR THE FIGHT PICTURE IN THE POSTS ABOVE.
#5. LISTED AS KIRIBATI
#6. LISTED AS GILBERT IS.
#7. 1841 SKETCH DRUMMOND IS;AND WARRIOR KINGSMILL ISLANDS
#8. GILBERT ISLANDS
#9. GILBERT ISLANDS
#10. KINGSMILL ISLANDS ARMOR , GERMAN BOOK
#11. KINGSMILL ISLANDS tHIS IS A DIFFERENT FORM THAT COVERS FRONT AND BACK.
#12. GILBERT ISLANDS ARMOR , FRONT AND BACK FORM.

SORRY ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE PICTURES MANY WERE TOO SMALL AND DARK TO DO MUCH WITH.

VANDOO · 26th May 2016, 09:47 PM

MORE ARMOR AND WEAPONS FROM KINGSMILL, GILBERT, MARSHALL, KIRIBATI ISLANDS REGION. DIFFERENT NAMES FOR THE SAME PLACES OVER TIME WITH NO SPECIFICS DO MUDDY THE WATERS.

VANDOO · 1st June 2016, 05:02 PM

A OLD EXAMPLE OF A INTERESTING SHARK TOOTH POLE SPEAR. THERE ARE 4 ROWS OF TEETH 2 ROWS WITH THE TEETH POINTING FORWARD AND TWO ROWS WITH THE TEETH POINTING BACKWARD. TWO ROWS GO ALL THE WAY TO THE TIP AND TWO GO TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY. IT IS 81.5 CM. LONG BUT APPEARS THAT SOME OF THE POLE MAY HAVE BEEN CUT OFF IN THE PAST.
THE TWO OLD PICTURES OF THE WARRIORS FACING OFF AND OF THEM STANDING WITH WEAPONS IN THE ABOVE POSTS, WAS FROM A 3 BOOK SET IN GERMAN CALLED " DIE SITTEN DER VOLKER" PUBLISHED IN 1920.

VANDOO · 9th June 2016, 07:13 PM

PICTURE OF A VARIATION OF THE SHARKTOOTH SPEAR/CLUB FOUND IN THE MUSEUM IN AUCKLAND NEW ZEALAND

VANDOO · 24th August 2016, 06:45 PM

TWO EXCEPTIONALLY FINE LONG SHARK TOOTH SPEARS RECENTLY ENDED AT AUCTION. ONE HAS A TIP MADE OF LARGE STINGRAY SPINES, BOTH APPEAR TO BE GOOD OLD EXAMPLES. THESE TWO EXAMPLES ARE 11 FEET BY 2.5 IN. OR 335 X 6.3 CM. LONG. DESCRIBED AS 19TH. CENTURY MAKE OF WOOD AND TIGER SHARK TEETH WITH A TIP ON ONE WITH STINGRAY SPINES AND A LITTLE REMAINING OF A FIBER WRAP. NOTE THE TEETH POINT ONE WAY TOWARD THE TIP BUT CHANGE ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN TO THE OTHER DIRECTION. THERE IS A WOODEN CROSS GUARD WITHOUT TEETH ON ONE EXAMPLE. IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WERE MOUNTED AND DISPLAYED AS A PAIR IN THE PAST.

24th May 2016, 04:58 PM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A FEW MORE PICTURES OF SHARK TOOTH WEAPONS, TOOLS AND ARMOR. THE FIRST 4 PICTURES ARE FROM THE MUSEUM IN AUCKLAND NEW ZEALAND WHICH HAS MORE MAORI AND OTHER OCEANIC WEAPONS AND ART ON DISPLAY THAN ANY OTHER I HAVE VISITED AND SHOULD NOT BE MISSED IF YOU ARE EVER THERE. PICTURE #5 IS FROM THE CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND MUSEUM AND SHOWS 2 LONG EXAMPLES OF THE TOOTHED SPEARS. #6. I TRIED TO CLEAN UP A PICTURE POSTED PREVIOUSLY OF COMBAT. MY CAMERA AND MY PHOTO SKILLS ARE LACKING SO I APOLOGIZE FOR PICTURE QUALITY. JUDGING FROM THE MUSEUM DATA BASE SOURCES, THE MAJORITY OF THEIR ARTIFACTS ARE NOT ON DISPLAY, BUT IN STORAGE. THE ONE WITH THE MOST AND LARGEST VARIETY ON DISPLAY WAS THE MUSEUM IN AUCKLAND THE DISPLAYS IN CHRISTCHURCH WERE VERY GOOD FOR MAORI ITEMS. THE NATIONAL MUSEUM IN WELLINGTON HAS LESS ON DISPLAY BUT SOME ITEMS WITH IMPORTANT MAORI HISTORICAL PROVENANCE. ALL THREE ARE VERY GOOD AND SHOULD NOT BE MISSED. THE MUSEUM IN DUNEDIN IS MOSTLY TRANSPORTATION RELATED BUT DOES HAVE SOME MAORI ITEMS ON DISPLAY. THERE ARE INTERESTING SMALL LOCAL MUSEUMS LOCATED IN SMALLER TOWNS THRU-OUT NEW ZEALAND. A WONDERFUL COUNTRY TO VISIT AND I SUSPECT TO LIVE IN. Attached Images

25th May 2016, 05:28 PM	#2
Shakethetrees Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Louisiana Posts: 363	Last year I visited the Peabody Museum at Harvard. It had been about forty years since I last visited and remember viewing a group of Gilbert Islands weapons and fiber armor. I didn't have great hope things would be the same, since these days museums have gotten away from dusty glass cases filled with relics to highlighting single objects with some sort of interpretive display nearby. But, to my surprise, it's still on display, along with a fair amount of other weapons and ethnographic material. If you ever find yourself in The Boston area, it might be worth your time to go for a visit. But, beware! Parking anywhere nearby is an absolute nightmare! Sorry the image is a little out of focus. Shooting through glass with lights everywhere is tricky! Attached Images

26th May 2016, 03:48 AM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THANKS FOR POSTING THIS EXAMPLE OF THE ARMOR IT SHOWS HOW THE SECTION WITH THE LARGE SECTION TO PROTECT THE BACK OF THE HEAD IS ATTACHED AND THE EXTRA PROTECTION IT GIVES TO THE SIDES AND KIDNEYS. SEVERAL OF THESE SETS OF ARMOR HAVE VERY FEW BLACK DESIGNS LIKE THE ONE YOU POST WHILE OTHERS HAVE QUITE A LOT. I WONDER IF THEY DENOTE THE RANK OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR THE NUMBER OF TIMES HE HAS FOUGHT OR HIS TEAM (TRIBE, VILLAGE OR ISLAND) ? NOTE THE DESIGNS ON THE TWO WARRIORS IN ARMOR IN THE PICTURE OF THE FIGHT ABOVE. SOME PICTURES FOR COMPARISON USE THE PICTURES IN POSTS ABOVE ALSO. NOTE THAT THE DESIGN APPEARS TO BE DIAMOND SHAPED IN MANY BUT ARE SHAPED LIKE FISH IN ONE EXAMPLE. #1. SUIT IN AUCKLAND MUSEUM MUCH LIKE YOUR EXAMPLE #2. LISTED AS FROM THE GILBERT ISLANDS #3. LISTED AS GILBERT IS. #4. LISTED AS KIRIBATI WARRIORS, LOOKS LIKE THE SAME GROUP POSED FOR THE FIGHT PICTURE IN THE POSTS ABOVE. #5. LISTED AS KIRIBATI #6. LISTED AS GILBERT IS. #7. 1841 SKETCH DRUMMOND IS;AND WARRIOR KINGSMILL ISLANDS #8. GILBERT ISLANDS #9. GILBERT ISLANDS #10. KINGSMILL ISLANDS ARMOR , GERMAN BOOK #11. KINGSMILL ISLANDS tHIS IS A DIFFERENT FORM THAT COVERS FRONT AND BACK. #12. GILBERT ISLANDS ARMOR , FRONT AND BACK FORM. SORRY ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE PICTURES MANY WERE TOO SMALL AND DARK TO DO MUCH WITH. Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 26th May 2016 at 04:11 AM.

26th May 2016, 09:47 PM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	MORE ARMOR AND WEAPONS FROM KINGSMILL, GILBERT, MARSHALL, KIRIBATI ISLANDS REGION. DIFFERENT NAMES FOR THE SAME PLACES OVER TIME WITH NO SPECIFICS DO MUDDY THE WATERS. Attached Images

1st June 2016, 05:02 PM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A OLD EXAMPLE OF A INTERESTING SHARK TOOTH POLE SPEAR. THERE ARE 4 ROWS OF TEETH 2 ROWS WITH THE TEETH POINTING FORWARD AND TWO ROWS WITH THE TEETH POINTING BACKWARD. TWO ROWS GO ALL THE WAY TO THE TIP AND TWO GO TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY. IT IS 81.5 CM. LONG BUT APPEARS THAT SOME OF THE POLE MAY HAVE BEEN CUT OFF IN THE PAST. THE TWO OLD PICTURES OF THE WARRIORS FACING OFF AND OF THEM STANDING WITH WEAPONS IN THE ABOVE POSTS, WAS FROM A 3 BOOK SET IN GERMAN CALLED " DIE SITTEN DER VOLKER" PUBLISHED IN 1920. Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 1st June 2016 at 05:22 PM.

9th June 2016, 07:13 PM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	PICTURE OF A VARIATION OF THE SHARKTOOTH SPEAR/CLUB FOUND IN THE MUSEUM IN AUCKLAND NEW ZEALAND Attached Images

24th August 2016, 06:45 PM	#7
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	TWO EXCEPTIONALLY FINE LONG SHARK TOOTH SPEARS RECENTLY ENDED AT AUCTION. ONE HAS A TIP MADE OF LARGE STINGRAY SPINES, BOTH APPEAR TO BE GOOD OLD EXAMPLES. THESE TWO EXAMPLES ARE 11 FEET BY 2.5 IN. OR 335 X 6.3 CM. LONG. DESCRIBED AS 19TH. CENTURY MAKE OF WOOD AND TIGER SHARK TEETH WITH A TIP ON ONE WITH STINGRAY SPINES AND A LITTLE REMAINING OF A FIBER WRAP. NOTE THE TEETH POINT ONE WAY TOWARD THE TIP BUT CHANGE ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN TO THE OTHER DIRECTION. THERE IS A WOODEN CROSS GUARD WITHOUT TEETH ON ONE EXAMPLE. IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WERE MOUNTED AND DISPLAYED AS A PAIR IN THE PAST. Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 24th August 2016 at 07:27 PM.