Russian Khyber knife

[mahratt]

Please show an example of Russian weapons with a stamp identical stamp in Afghanistan Khyber. While those stamps that you have shown very different (stamp on the Afghan Khyber gives double contour picture). This is clearly seen in the photo from the post number 9.

[TVV]

I am sorry but this looks to me like an old blade with a fake modern stamp as well. Just because the item failed to achieve a high price, does not mean there was no such intent by whoever put the stamp on. The fact tat it failed to sell seems to indicate that most buyers were put off by the marking.

Teodor

[ariel]

Teodor,
I mentioned its asking price just to assure the audience that the seller was not grotesquely unreasonable; he asked a price comparable or even lower than many other similar items. Still, the seller's listing price, although extremely modest in absolute terms, was IMHO too high : khybers of similar quality have been sold ( not listed!) for ~ $100-200 less, not nearly enough to justify selling a fake and ruining his reputations as a respected dealer.


It surely does not mean IMHO that potential buyers were turned off by the stamp.


I acknowledge comments of Russian collectors, but the mark is identical to the pic ( small rectangle , lower left corner of the upper pic of my examples) that is taken from the official academic, referenced Russian site. Thus, we have academic document against personal opinions.

I see nothing that would convince me that the Khyber stamp is a fake: no difference in execution, no reason for the seller to gain anything from a forgery.

I have no dog in this fight: I did not buy this Khyber, nor do I intend to. This is just a puzzling historical query. If somebody here with a genuine knowledge and factual evidence proves that the stamp is a fake, I shall be only delighted to learn something new.

Thus, I view this issue as still open.

With best wishes.

[mahratt]

Dear Theodore, we need to see the Russian stamp with double contour. This stamp (double contour) on the arms factory Zlatoust not exist. All participants of the 2 Russian forums without joining in the debate said that the stamp - a fake. And in one case, I put only photos stamp. In order to not influence the opinion of the participants.
Russian saber of light cavalry in 1827 is very different from the later production Zlatoust . It is not well-known marks Zlatoust (with the Russian double-headed eagle stamp). Just inscription (engraving, hand made) on the back of the blade. In Russia, the Russian saber 1827 is 6-10 times more expensive than the French saber 1827. Therefore, this is one of the most counterfeited saber models. And modern masters have reached the highest level in the manufacture of fake.