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Old 11th March 2016, 07:47 AM   #1
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Interesting to see in the last few posts that the swords are all worn or carried edge up. The suspension rings are sometimes aligned to the edge but often to the back as ''normal''. I'm fairly new to this forum so apologies if I've picked up on something that has been discussed many times before.
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Old 12th March 2016, 08:39 AM   #2
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I love the staffs, anyone got any information on them or does anyone have one ?
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Old 12th March 2016, 08:52 AM   #3
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Interesting that the fellow to the far left in photo 4 is also carrying a Moroccan koummya.
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Old 12th March 2016, 09:16 AM   #4
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I don't where this guy is coming from but I like the suma ramrod between the two pistols...
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Old 12th March 2016, 02:12 PM   #5
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I don't where this guy is coming from but I like the suma ramrod between the two pistols...
Actually I recently made this image, it was cropped and edited from the original. Below is the original image and the end result.

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Les costumes populaires de la Turquie en 1873. Ouvrage publié sous le patronage de la Commission impériale ottomane pour l'Exposition universelle de Vienne by Osman Hamdi Bey, 1842-1910; Launay, Marie de; Turkey. Commission impériale ottomane pour l'Exposition universelle de Vienne, 1873
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Old 12th March 2016, 03:06 PM   #6
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A few more examples from the same book.
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Old 12th March 2016, 06:27 PM   #7
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You are amazing! Thank you for sharing all this!
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Old 13th March 2016, 01:40 PM   #8
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Interesting that the fellow to the far left in photo 4 is also carrying a Moroccan koummya.
Certainly an interesting point Charles and well spotted Charles.

Whilst not of the norm or national dress, I don't find it a surprise though, especially when consideration to the Turkish and Moroccan relationship throughout history.

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Interesting to see in the last few posts that the swords are all worn or carried edge up. The suspension rings are sometimes aligned to the edge but often to the back as ''normal''. I'm fairly new to this forum so apologies if I've picked up on something that has been discussed many times before.
In the case of Ottoman shamsirs which I could see in natura - the suspension rings are so close each other, that the sabre always turn edge up when hung.
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Interesting to see in the last few posts that the swords are all worn or carried edge up. The suspension rings are sometimes aligned to the edge but often to the back as ''normal''. I'm fairly new to this forum so apologies if I've picked up on something that has been discussed many times before.
RoberyGuy, this facet of sabre suspension is extremely common throughout many societies as it facilitates the draw cut.
The bottom fitting is usually the weight bearing point whilst the upper suspension point positions the hilt to the preferred draw point.

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