A composite 17 th century sword for comment.

cornelistromp · 30th January 2016, 12:01 PM

I found out in the meantime, that there's not many study for the simple crosshilted sword in the post-medieval period.
according to Claude Blair ( An English sword with an ottoman blade in the swiss national museum) this hiltvorm was in the civilian and military dress till the mid of the 16th century but there after seems to have gone out of fashion, until in the beginning of the 17th century it returned again mainly in the civilian dress.
the available evidence for the use of Such swords in the 17th century actually only comes from England.

See attached a simple English cross hilted sword with a similar paddle shaped guard as the sword under discussion, simple in form of course not the decoration.

me fecit salingen seems a corruption of mefecit solingen, I do not believe salingen is the name of a sword maker, because often the first and last name of the sword maker was mentioned in the inscription.See an example of a rapier, 1630 in the V & A museum, monogram; inscribed ‘Me Fecit Salingen’ and inlaid with a running wolf.
Also an example inscribed mefecit Solingen.

best,
jasper

Cerjak · 30th January 2016, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cornelistromp

I found out in the meantime, that there's not many study for the simple crosshilted sword in the post-medieval period.
according to Claude Blair ( An English sword with an ottoman blade in the swiss national museum) this hiltvorm was in the civilian and military dress till the mid of the 16th century but there after seems to have gone out of fashion, until in the beginning of the 17th century it returned again mainly in the civilian dress.
the available evidence for the use of Such swords in the 17th century actually only comes from England.

See attached a simple English cross hilted sword with a similar paddle shaped guard as the sword under discussion, simple in form of course not the decoration.

me fecit salingen seems a corruption of mefecit solingen, I do not believe salingen is the name of a sword maker, because often the first and last name of the sword maker was mentioned in the inscription.See an example of a rapier, 1630 in the V & A museum, monogram; inscribed ‘Me Fecit Salingen’ and inlaid with a running wolf.
Also an example inscribed mefecit Solingen.

best,
jasper

Hi Jasper
You did a perfect job I can see that your thought about the type of pommel compatible with this sword in post 7 was exact:
A Globular pommel would be perfect with this sword.
Thank you again for the pictures.

best
Jean-Luc

cornelistromp · 30th January 2016, 05:17 PM

have you seen the last pictured hilt with the guard finals in the form of moor heads and the pommel where a lion was cut out.

really beautiful transitional small sword and probably Dutch, blade has master mark of meves berns.

30th January 2016, 12:01 PM	#1
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,060	I found out in the meantime, that there's not many study for the simple crosshilted sword in the post-medieval period. according to Claude Blair ( An English sword with an ottoman blade in the swiss national museum) this hiltvorm was in the civilian and military dress till the mid of the 16th century but there after seems to have gone out of fashion, until in the beginning of the 17th century it returned again mainly in the civilian dress. the available evidence for the use of Such swords in the 17th century actually only comes from England. See attached a simple English cross hilted sword with a similar paddle shaped guard as the sword under discussion, simple in form of course not the decoration. me fecit salingen seems a corruption of mefecit solingen, I do not believe salingen is the name of a sword maker, because often the first and last name of the sword maker was mentioned in the inscription.See an example of a rapier, 1630 in the V & A museum, monogram; inscribed ‘Me Fecit Salingen’ and inlaid with a running wolf. Also an example inscribed mefecit Solingen. best, jasper Attached Images Last edited by cornelistromp; 30th January 2016 at 12:17 PM.

30th January 2016, 05:17 PM	#3
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,060	have you seen the last pictured hilt with the guard finals in the form of moor heads and the pommel where a lion was cut out. really beautiful transitional small sword and probably Dutch, blade has master mark of meves berns. Attached Images