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Old 10th December 2015, 05:28 PM   #1
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Nice earlier saif, Richard. I am very interested in seeing better images of the maker's name. As this is slightly earlier it will be immensely appreciated if the maker's name is shown.

As for the script in the locket, these generally have generic script although sometimes the owner's name too.

Your's say's "For its owner a long life and good health" which is very common on this variation.

This type I date as earlier due to photographic evidence. And have tracked some makers.
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Old 14th December 2015, 02:25 PM   #2
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Thank you Lotfy,
Sorry for the delay, I have had problems with the last update on the PC.
Anyway here they are:-
Nos 1 & 2 are on the front of the scabbard.
Nos 3 & 4 which should be reversed, if you see what I mean, are on the reverse (seamed) side of the scabbard.
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Old 14th December 2015, 02:36 PM   #3
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Thank you Lotfy,
Sorry for the delay, I have had problems wiy the last update on the PC.
Anyway here they are
Hey Richard,

Can you email the photos, I need high definition ones to zoom in.
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Old 14th December 2015, 02:48 PM   #4
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Wow! that was quick. I'll try.
Richard
PS. Have sent a PM

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Old 30th January 2016, 01:46 PM   #5
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Saif made in the city of Ha'il. Blade is European? there is latin script on it that I cannot read.
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Old 6th June 2023, 03:03 PM   #6
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Default Saudi saif saber

Dear friends,

Would someone be willing to confirm the determination of this saif saber?

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It seems to be a 20th century production. An Arab friend helped me translate the inscription on the blade:

،،، السيف عزة مجد أنت قابضها ،،،


،،، وعزة المجد لا تأتيك بالوهن ،،،


،،، ففي السيوف دفاع العرب والوطن ،،،

The sword is the height of glory, O bearer, and in the height of glory you shall not be wearied; as the sword is the pride [defender] of all the Arabs, and the sword is the defender of the Arabs and the homeland.

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What is curious is that it has the number 4 stamped on the crossguard and the sheath which could indicate a more industrial production? The grip seems to be plated with a sort of plastic, which the author says smells like pinewood when burnt?

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What do you guys think. Also do you have any indication on the worth of such sabers?

Thanks!
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Old 8th June 2023, 09:17 PM   #7
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Hello,

Mounts are very recent, made in Syria. Those were mostly made for decoration and sometimes as state gifts. The koftgari looks new.

But the blade looks genuine and old, which is a common practice to refit old blades. Have an expert test it for wootz.
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