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|  25th November 2015, 01:50 AM | #24 | 
| Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI 
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			In many cases, the only answer would be" Somewhere in the Ottoman Empire, but where exactly, - I have no bloody idea. Sorry.....":-) But do not despair: only 15 or so years ago we had vicious and unproductive battles on the origin of ( what became clear later) Laz Bichaq:-) And only 5 years ago or so, we had no idea that the unusually long and simple yataghans with a T-handle were Zeibek. In another 50 or so years we shall confidently distinguish yataghans from Ioannina from those of Plovdiv manufacture. Then we shall start working on kilijes:-))) | 
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