Zweihander identification

ulfberth · 6th November 2015, 06:38 PM

Amazing, this kind of etching on 17 century halberds is so rare... And the quality is unbelievable.
Although halberds, and helmets more often were etched in the 19th century, from what I can see on the picture this seems to be an etching of the 17th C.
It has nothing to do with the great sword in the sense of being a pair, the construction and quality of the work is totally different.
Congratulations again, I'm sure this is an original piece.

kind regards

Ulfberth

dayton56 · 6th November 2015, 07:58 PM

Hi Ulfberth,
Thanks for your comments. There appears to be a detailed sword hilt on one of the images... any idea type of sword it is representing? Thanks, Fred

ulfberth · 6th November 2015, 08:23 PM

Hi Dayton,

sorry, I dont see a sword hilt ....

dayton56 · 6th November 2015, 08:56 PM

I think this is supposed to be a sword...

cornelistromp · 7th November 2015, 05:42 PM

given the style of the etching, the type of clothing of the etched man and the type of the halberd, I expect that this is not a 17th century halberd but 16th century one. 1575-1600.
the etched sword hilt seems a german basket hilt popular around 1580

the halberd is Indeed from the same period as the two-hand sword, is this a coincidence or do they have the same provenance?

best,

dayton56 · 7th November 2015, 10:38 PM

They were both acquired at auction in Vienna about 1960. They have been in a private collection since then. I also inherited a really old door lock and key with the two weapons...

cornelistromp · 8th November 2015, 07:19 AM

I meant actually if there is something known about the provenance before this auction, maybe in the auction description.
on 500 years of age, 55 years provenance is historically not very significant.

6th November 2015, 07:58 PM	#2
dayton56 Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 14	Sword hilt in etching Hi Ulfberth, Thanks for your comments. There appears to be a detailed sword hilt on one of the images... any idea type of sword it is representing? Thanks, Fred Attached Images

6th November 2015, 08:56 PM	#4
dayton56 Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 14	Sword hilt I think this is supposed to be a sword... Attached Images

7th November 2015, 10:38 PM	#6
dayton56 Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 14	Polearm provenance They were both acquired at auction in Vienna about 1960. They have been in a private collection since then. I also inherited a really old door lock and key with the two weapons...

6th November 2015, 06:38 PM	#1
ulfberth Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 428	Amazing, this kind of etching on 17 century halberds is so rare... And the quality is unbelievable. Although halberds, and helmets more often were etched in the 19th century, from what I can see on the picture this seems to be an etching of the 17th C. It has nothing to do with the great sword in the sense of being a pair, the construction and quality of the work is totally different. Congratulations again, I'm sure this is an original piece. kind regards Ulfberth

6th November 2015, 08:23 PM	#3
ulfberth Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 428	Hi Dayton, sorry, I dont see a sword hilt ....

7th November 2015, 05:42 PM	#5
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,060	given the style of the etching, the type of clothing of the etched man and the type of the halberd, I expect that this is not a 17th century halberd but 16th century one. 1575-1600. the etched sword hilt seems a german basket hilt popular around 1580 the halberd is Indeed from the same period as the two-hand sword, is this a coincidence or do they have the same provenance? best,

8th November 2015, 07:19 AM	#7
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,060	I meant actually if there is something known about the provenance before this auction, maybe in the auction description. on 500 years of age, 55 years provenance is historically not very significant.