Rare sword of the Timor group

Marcus · 31st October 2015, 11:25 PM

Over a year and still no picture? I just comitted to a Timor sword on Oriental Arms.

BANDOOK · 1st November 2015, 10:04 AM

HI IAN,AM POSTING PICTURES OF MY SWORD FROM THE TIMORESE GROUP,ALOR SWORD
The scabbard is made of two wooden pieces, tied together with rattan. The binding can continue over the scabbard’s entire length. Its mouth can be very broad, and towards the back somewhat less broadened, or hardly broader than the hilt’s stem. The mouth is always decorated with carving resembling that on the hilt, also with a raised central ‘eye.’ The scabbard has an angled foot, facing towards the edge side. This foot is decorated with carving which always includes a central raised circle.”
THE ABOVE IS SEEN CLEARLY IN MY SWORD,CHEERS AND THANKS FOR POSTING

Sajen · 1st November 2015, 10:13 AM

Wow, the blade seems to have seen a lot of action!

I would clean the blade from rust.

Regards,
Detlef

BANDOOK · 1st November 2015, 10:18 AM

THANKS DETLEF,I SAW THIS POST TODAY WHICH WAS POSTED BY IAN A YEAR BACK,I HAVE NOT TOUCHED THIS SWORD SINCE AGES AND ONLY TO PHOTOGRAPH IT TODAY,SO WILL PUT SOME LUBRICANTS /ANTIRUST ,CHEERS

Ian · 1st November 2015, 01:42 PM

Sorry guys. My bad. I got side tracked and never cleaned this one up. Will try to get it done in the next few days and post more pics.

Nice example Bandook. Thank for sharing the pics.

Ian.

BANDOOK · 2nd November 2015, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian

Sorry guys. My bad. I got side tracked and never cleaned this one up. Will try to get it done in the next few days and post more pics.

Nice example Bandook. Thank for sharing the pics.

Ian.

THANKS IAN,PLEASE COULD YOU TELL ME HOW OLD MY SWORD WOULD BE ROUGHLY,CHEERS RAJESH

Oriental-Arms · 2nd November 2015, 05:49 PM

I stand corrected. Alamang sword indeed. My apologies

Ian · 2nd November 2015, 11:11 PM

Hi Rajesh:

I would think late 19th or early 20th C judging from the overall appearance. Perhaps a little more recent. Circa 1900 would be my best guess.

Ian.

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Originally Posted by BANDOOK

THANKS IAN,PLEASE COULD YOU TELL ME HOW OLD MY SWORD WOULD BE ROUGHLY,CHEERS RAJESH

kai · 1st November 2015, 10:29 PM

Hello Marcus,

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I just comitted to a Timor sword on Oriental Arms.

I'm afraid Artzi got that one wrong - it's an alamang/alameng, a typical Buginese/Makassarese sword. While these do show up elsewhere in Bugis-influenced areas, I don't think there is any reason to trace this examples' origin to the wider Timor group...

Regards,
Kai

Marcus · 2nd November 2015, 02:13 AM

I do not really agree. I think it is distinct from the alamang type swords, although it is not that typical of the Timor group either.

Sajen · 2nd November 2015, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcus

I do not really agree. I think it is distinct from the alamang type swords, although it is not that typical of the Timor group either.

Hello Marcus,

when it is the shown sword I have to agree with Kai, it's a typical Bugis alamang, please compare with this example from my own collection: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=alamang
Even a knowledgeable dealer can be wrong, sorry Artzi.

Best regards,
Detlef

31st October 2015, 11:25 PM	#1
Marcus Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 420	pictures Over a year and still no picture? I just comitted to a Timor sword on Oriental Arms.

1st November 2015, 10:04 AM	#2
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 627	Timorese sword HI IAN,AM POSTING PICTURES OF MY SWORD FROM THE TIMORESE GROUP,ALOR SWORD The scabbard is made of two wooden pieces, tied together with rattan. The binding can continue over the scabbard’s entire length. Its mouth can be very broad, and towards the back somewhat less broadened, or hardly broader than the hilt’s stem. The mouth is always decorated with carving resembling that on the hilt, also with a raised central ‘eye.’ The scabbard has an angled foot, facing towards the edge side. This foot is decorated with carving which always includes a central raised circle.” THE ABOVE IS SEEN CLEARLY IN MY SWORD,CHEERS AND THANKS FOR POSTING Attached Images Last edited by BANDOOK; 1st November 2015 at 10:27 AM.

1st November 2015, 01:42 PM	#5
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,453	Sorry guys Sorry guys. My bad. I got side tracked and never cleaned this one up. Will try to get it done in the next few days and post more pics. Nice example Bandook. Thank for sharing the pics. Ian.

2nd November 2015, 02:13 AM	#10
Marcus Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 420	"Artzi got that one wrong" I do not really agree. I think it is distinct from the alamang type swords, although it is not that typical of the Timor group either.

1st November 2015, 10:13 AM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,272	Wow, the blade seems to have seen a lot of action! I would clean the blade from rust. Regards, Detlef

1st November 2015, 10:18 AM	#4
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 627	THANKS DETLEF,I SAW THIS POST TODAY WHICH WAS POSTED BY IAN A YEAR BACK,I HAVE NOT TOUCHED THIS SWORD SINCE AGES AND ONLY TO PHOTOGRAPH IT TODAY,SO WILL PUT SOME LUBRICANTS /ANTIRUST ,CHEERS

2nd November 2015, 05:49 PM	#7
Oriental-Arms Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Haifa, Israel Posts: 183	I stand corrected. Alamang sword indeed. My apologies