Saudi Saifs

Richard G · 30th October 2015, 12:48 PM

OK, Mr Alnakkas,
Eventually, if I can master the technology,

A.alnakkas · 30th October 2015, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard G

OK, Mr Alnakkas,
Eventually, if I can master the technology,

Thanks for sharing, thats one of the most beautiful saifs I have ever seen :-)

A.alnakkas · 30th October 2015, 03:48 PM

here is a sword in my collection with a rather illusive maker. This is the only sword I saw with his name and no one seems to know him. Sword dates to 1936 and was in a rough condition but was restored by a professional.

There are a few oddities about this piece compared to other saifs, that includes thicker silver dress and the use of deer horn. The original was in a very rough shape, basically crumbles when held so the maker got a new horn and made it in exact dimensions. Everything was perfect except for a simple discolouration that I thought is acceptable since its natural.

A.alnakkas · 20th November 2015, 02:37 PM

This is the last sword I have posted, showing close ups of the craftsmanship. One of the best I know of, the engraving on the silver is very high quality.

The silver seems bright, that because this sword was recently restored as it was in horrid condition, to say the least.

estcrh · 20th November 2015, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

Thanks for sharing, thats one of the most beautiful saifs I have ever seen :-)

That is quite a compliment.

Richard G · 10th December 2015, 01:37 PM

Hello,
I have another one. This has an unmarked and unfullered watered blade. I am hoping Lotfy or Ibrahim will be again generous enough to give me a translation. On the bottom of the locket, beneath the bands of script and just above the mount for the ring is, I think, the makers name.
Many thanks for any help received.
Regards
Richard

estcrh · 10th December 2015, 02:42 PM

Lotfy, another one with a short chape.

A.alnakkas · 10th December 2015, 05:28 PM

Nice earlier saif, Richard. I am very interested in seeing better images of the maker's name. As this is slightly earlier it will be immensely appreciated if the maker's name is shown.

As for the script in the locket, these generally have generic script although sometimes the owner's name too.

Your's say's "For its owner a long life and good health" which is very common on this variation.

This type I date as earlier due to photographic evidence. And have tracked some makers.

Richard G · 14th December 2015, 02:25 PM

Thank you Lotfy,
Sorry for the delay, I have had problems with the last update on the PC.
Anyway here they are:-
Nos 1 & 2 are on the front of the scabbard.
Nos 3 & 4 which should be reversed, if you see what I mean, are on the reverse (seamed) side of the scabbard.

30th October 2015, 12:48 PM	#1
Richard G Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 411	OK, Mr Alnakkas, Eventually, if I can master the technology, Attached Images

30th October 2015, 03:48 PM	#3
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	here is a sword in my collection with a rather illusive maker. This is the only sword I saw with his name and no one seems to know him. Sword dates to 1936 and was in a rough condition but was restored by a professional. There are a few oddities about this piece compared to other saifs, that includes thicker silver dress and the use of deer horn. The original was in a very rough shape, basically crumbles when held so the maker got a new horn and made it in exact dimensions. Everything was perfect except for a simple discolouration that I thought is acceptable since its natural. Attached Images

20th November 2015, 02:37 PM	#4
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	This is the last sword I have posted, showing close ups of the craftsmanship. One of the best I know of, the engraving on the silver is very high quality. The silver seems bright, that because this sword was recently restored as it was in horrid condition, to say the least. Attached Images

10th December 2015, 01:37 PM	#6
Richard G Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 411	Hello, I have another one. This has an unmarked and unfullered watered blade. I am hoping Lotfy or Ibrahim will be again generous enough to give me a translation. On the bottom of the locket, beneath the bands of script and just above the mount for the ring is, I think, the makers name. Many thanks for any help received. Regards Richard Attached Images

10th December 2015, 02:42 PM	#7
estcrh Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: USA Posts: 1,492	Lotfy, another one with a short chape. Attached Images

10th December 2015, 05:28 PM	#8
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	Nice earlier saif, Richard. I am very interested in seeing better images of the maker's name. As this is slightly earlier it will be immensely appreciated if the maker's name is shown. As for the script in the locket, these generally have generic script although sometimes the owner's name too. Your's say's "For its owner a long life and good health" which is very common on this variation. This type I date as earlier due to photographic evidence. And have tracked some makers.

14th December 2015, 02:25 PM	#9
Richard G Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 411	Thank you Lotfy, Sorry for the delay, I have had problems with the last update on the PC. Anyway here they are:- Nos 1 & 2 are on the front of the scabbard. Nos 3 & 4 which should be reversed, if you see what I mean, are on the reverse (seamed) side of the scabbard. Attached Images Last edited by Richard G; 14th December 2015 at 02:46 PM.