Jambiya thouma

[Miguel]

Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi Guys,

I searched all the forum about the jambiya thouma.
And I was very dispointed by the results.
If I follow what I got on the forum and the two books that I have (Elgood and Gracie).
This kind of jambiya exist at least since the 19th.
The later ones were made of plain metal iron or brass, then we have the filigree ones made by the Jews with some stamps at the back of the scabbard. Then after 1940ties low quality work...
Is it too simplistic? Do you have more information or more simply some examples to post??? It could be very useful for all... and for me

Kubur

Hi Kubur,
I think that I may have one or two of these but I did not know they were called Thouma. I will try and root them out and send some photos in the next day or so.
Miguel

[Kubur]

Thank you Miguel
I hope that some old and experimented members will help too...

[Miguel]

Originally Posted by Miguel

Hi Kubur,
I think that I may have one or two of these but I did not know they were called Thouma. I will try and root them out and send some photos in the next day or so.
Miguel

Hi Kubur, As promised I have attached the photos. You will have to forgive me if they are not what you were asking for as I had not come across the name Thouma before I have only known them as Yemenite Jambiyas. Also I am pretty sure that the one with the silver plated copper hilt and scabbard is a Tourist piece. I also looked up some old threads on Thoumas and in one in particular the comments of Abrahaim made me think that the other two of the three I have shown are Tourist pieces also and if so apologise for my lack of knowledge of these items, just trying to be helpful.
Regards
Miguel

[Kubur]

Hi Miguel,

Thank you very much, up to now you are the only one who tried to help.
I hope that you are joking about your jambiya! The first hadrami one is excellent!! It's a really good one. I'm more sceptical about the second one quiete recent. For the last one, difficult to say as it's an Indian jambiya and I know nothing about this kind, the shape looks good.
Unfortuntaly it's not what i was loooking for.

Kind regards,
Kubur

[Oriental-Arms]

Three classical Thouma Jambiya daggers. All late 19 - early 20C. Rhino horn hilts and silver mounts. Each one shown complete with the belt fully extended and a close up on the dagger and scabbard. Enjoy

[Kubur]

Thank you very much
I was starting to think that the old members and dealers weren't so involved to help people. You proved me that I was wrong. But I'm still very disappointed by the Forum.

[DaveA]

For your consideration, here is one of my Yemeni jambiya, pre-1920. The thumah style scabbard extends downward without the strong degree of curvature found in the 'aseeb style scabbard. The thumah ends in a traditional silver-ball type decoration called a "kawthara". An exquisite silver plate, called a "tuza", decorates the thumah. On the rear of the thumah is found a small metal piece bearing the name of the creator. This confirms a data of manufacture prior to 1920 when it became forbidden to sign jewelry of any kind in Yemen. This type of jambiya is sometimes referred to as a tuza.

The tuza jambiya was reserved for the religious elite of the country, including those who claimed direct descent from the Prophet Muhammad (BBHN). Imams and those especially learned individuals who served as judges, teachers or administrators for the Imam also wore the thumah. The thumah-scabbard of dignitaries and townsmen of high degree (seyyids and qådis) is often dark, offering high contrast with the ornate silver decoration.

- Dave A.

[DaveA]

Originally Posted by Kubur

Thank you very much
I was starting to think that the old members and dealers weren't so involved to help people. You proved me that I was wrong. But I'm still very disappointed by the Forum.

I've put a couple of very interesting articles about Yemeni jambiya in my dropbox. You can find them for download at the following link:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mxznitnfa...wvyKkcUja?dl=0

Please let me know if you have trouble downloading them. Contact me by PM with your email address and I'll be happy to send them.

Best,

Dave A.

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by DaveA

I've put a couple of very interesting articles about Yemeni jambiya in my dropbox. You can find them for download at the following link:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mxznitnfa...wvyKkcUja?dl=0

Please let me know if you have trouble downloading them. Contact me by PM with your email address and I'll be happy to send them.

Best,

Dave A.

Thanks for posting these Dave. I already have copies of these in my library, and I would recommend that those interested in the subject, print off a hard copy for future reference. The one on Silverwork is particularly interesting.
Stu

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by Kubur

Thank you very much
I was starting to think that the old members and dealers weren't so involved to help people. You proved me that I was wrong. But I'm still very disappointed by the Forum.

You may see the Forum as disappointing, but remember that not all Members are on line every day.

[Tim Simmons]

Kubur, the answers are not on the forum. You have to do your own work and teach us all {those that are interested} I do apologise for my own jaded view on some material.