Saudi Saifs

Miguel · 18th October 2015, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

I think so, the craftsmanship is near identical to Sulaiman's work but without an inscription declaring it as his work, one cant be certain.

These are all hand crafted, unlike some later work shops that use some printing/pressed silver methods when making certain parts. Hopefully my research once published it will pinpoint the work of all identifiable swordmaker.

Thanks once again for the information, your knowledge on this subject has made this thread so very interesting and for me personally very satisfying, I hope your research will be published pretty soon.
Best regards
Miguel

Richard G · 22nd October 2015, 09:51 PM

Hello Mr Alnakkas,
Is the name Mohammed bin Bani, in the 1920's, familiar to you? I think I have it on one of these saifs.
Regards
Richard

A.alnakkas · 22nd October 2015, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard G

Hello Mr Alnakkas,
Is the name Mohammed bin Bani, in the 1920's, familiar to you? I think I have it on one of these saifs.
Regards
Richard

Yes, Mohammed bin Bani is a sword maker and related to Sulaiman and AbdulAziz bin Bani. They all descend from one of the earliest maker in the area.

Do you have any item with his name and a date?

Richard G · 26th October 2015, 01:25 PM

Yes, I have a saif of this type signed on the back of the scabbard (but this is my translation) Amal Mohammed bin Bani and dated, elsewhere on the scabbard AH 1341. Do I surmise from earlier comments that this was probably made in Hail?
Regards
Richard

A.alnakkas · 26th October 2015, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard G

Yes, I have a saif of this type signed on the back of the scabbard (but this is my translation) Amal Mohammed bin Bani and dated, elsewhere on the scabbard AH 1341. Do I surmise from earlier comments that this was probably made in Hail?
Regards
Richard

Not necessarily. Can I see the saif? Mohammed and Sulaiman may have moved outside Hail after the fall of Al-Rashid. To add more info; one supposedly moved to Makkah and the other in Riyadh, where they continued to make swords.

Richard G · 27th October 2015, 01:59 PM

OK, thanks for the info. I will give it a bit of a rub over and try and take some photo's. Don't expect too much too soon tho!, altho' the saif is a very nice one.
Richard

Richard G · 30th October 2015, 12:48 PM

OK, Mr Alnakkas,
Eventually, if I can master the technology,

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22nd October 2015, 09:51 PM	#2
Richard G Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 411	Hello Mr Alnakkas, Is the name Mohammed bin Bani, in the 1920's, familiar to you? I think I have it on one of these saifs. Regards Richard

26th October 2015, 01:25 PM	#4
Richard G Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 411	Yes, I have a saif of this type signed on the back of the scabbard (but this is my translation) Amal Mohammed bin Bani and dated, elsewhere on the scabbard AH 1341. Do I surmise from earlier comments that this was probably made in Hail? Regards Richard

27th October 2015, 01:59 PM	#6
Richard G Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 411	OK, thanks for the info. I will give it a bit of a rub over and try and take some photo's. Don't expect too much too soon tho!, altho' the saif is a very nice one. Richard