Saudi Saifs

[A.alnakkas]

Originally Posted by Miguel

Hi A. ainakkas,
Thank you for taking the time and for your info on my Saif. Is the maker the person you thought it may have been i.e. Sulaiman ibn Bani or is it someone else? I would love to Know.
Regards Miguel

I think so, the craftsmanship is near identical to Sulaiman's work but without an inscription declaring it as his work, one cant be certain.

These are all hand crafted, unlike some later work shops that use some printing/pressed silver methods when making certain parts. Hopefully my research once published it will pinpoint the work of all identifiable swordmaker.

[Miguel]

Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

I think so, the craftsmanship is near identical to Sulaiman's work but without an inscription declaring it as his work, one cant be certain.

These are all hand crafted, unlike some later work shops that use some printing/pressed silver methods when making certain parts. Hopefully my research once published it will pinpoint the work of all identifiable swordmaker.

Thanks once again for the information, your knowledge on this subject has made this thread so very interesting and for me personally very satisfying, I hope your research will be published pretty soon.
Best regards
Miguel

[Richard G]

Hello Mr Alnakkas,
Is the name Mohammed bin Bani, in the 1920's, familiar to you? I think I have it on one of these saifs.
Regards
Richard

[A.alnakkas]

Originally Posted by Richard G

Hello Mr Alnakkas,
Is the name Mohammed bin Bani, in the 1920's, familiar to you? I think I have it on one of these saifs.
Regards
Richard

Yes, Mohammed bin Bani is a sword maker and related to Sulaiman and AbdulAziz bin Bani. They all descend from one of the earliest maker in the area.

Do you have any item with his name and a date?

[Richard G]

Yes, I have a saif of this type signed on the back of the scabbard (but this is my translation) Amal Mohammed bin Bani and dated, elsewhere on the scabbard AH 1341. Do I surmise from earlier comments that this was probably made in Hail?
Regards
Richard

[A.alnakkas]

Originally Posted by Richard G

Yes, I have a saif of this type signed on the back of the scabbard (but this is my translation) Amal Mohammed bin Bani and dated, elsewhere on the scabbard AH 1341. Do I surmise from earlier comments that this was probably made in Hail?
Regards
Richard

Not necessarily. Can I see the saif? Mohammed and Sulaiman may have moved outside Hail after the fall of Al-Rashid. To add more info; one supposedly moved to Makkah and the other in Riyadh, where they continued to make swords.

[Richard G]

OK, thanks for the info. I will give it a bit of a rub over and try and take some photo's. Don't expect too much too soon tho!, altho' the saif is a very nice one.
Richard