Keris Holders

Jean · 17th October 2015, 03:29 PM

As promised I attach the pics of my 3 kris holders:
. The first piece is balinese and made from hard & dense wood, it measures 63 cm high and it may depict Bayu or Bima. The figure has long thumb nails and a full jewelry set. I acquired it in Jakarta in 1995, note the similarity with the "Ravana" holder described in the thesis from Cynthia.
. The second holder is probably Balinese also and it seems to depict a Chinese gentleman. I acquired it in Surabaya in 1996.
. The third holder seems to be javanese and it may depict the Punakawan Bagong identified from his round eyes, big mouth, and short nose. Bagong is also wearing a hair bun, and there is a trace of a hair tuft on top of the head.
Your comments and pics of other kris holders will be welcome.

Regards

A. G. Maisey · 18th October 2015, 02:04 AM

Why do you think #3 is Javanese Jean?

Jean · 18th October 2015, 09:22 AM

Hello Alan,
From the style of the black sarong & belt and the carving which does not look like the balinese depictions of the punakawans, and it reminds me of some Loryo Blonyo statues from Central Java. Note the slim support also, contrary to the balinese kris holders.
I bought it from a Dutch collector so I have no proven provenance and I am open to another opinion!
Regards

A. G. Maisey · 18th October 2015, 12:11 PM

Jean, I've never seen a figural keris holder used in Jawa, and the only figural ones from Jawa that I have seen were quite large and in the form of people in Javanese dress --- like that one in post #12.

It is not impossible that this one of yours might be Jawa, but I must ask myself why it is that in over 40 years of doing the rounds in Jawa I've never seen a Jawa figural keris holder that had actually been made for sale in the open market.

Jean · 18th October 2015, 04:50 PM

Hello Alan,
I also do not remember to have seen a kris stand in Java during my visits so this one should be a museum piece!

Its size is about the same as the one shown in post # 12.
Regards

asomotif · 18th October 2015, 07:17 PM

I think no.3 is a recent production. I am not sure when duck faces came into vogue but is not very long ago.

Jean · 18th October 2015, 08:43 PM

Ouch, I just found that we already discussed this subject in the thread "Keris holder for comment" started on 23th June 2012 but I forgot it, sorry!

Jean · 19th October 2015, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asomotif

I think no.3 is a recent production. I am not sure when duck faces came into vogue but is not very long ago.

Hello Willem,
A duck with a red bill and a nose?
I agree that the piece is not old but it was used and patinated before I got it, I would estimate that it was made about 20-30 years ago. If anybody has a similar piece to show us, I would be pleased to see it.
Regards

18th October 2015, 07:17 PM	#6
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,235	I think no.3 is a recent production. I am not sure when duck faces came into vogue but is not very long ago. Attached Images

17th October 2015, 03:29 PM	#1
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	As promised I attach the pics of my 3 kris holders: . The first piece is balinese and made from hard & dense wood, it measures 63 cm high and it may depict Bayu or Bima. The figure has long thumb nails and a full jewelry set. I acquired it in Jakarta in 1995, note the similarity with the "Ravana" holder described in the thesis from Cynthia. . The second holder is probably Balinese also and it seems to depict a Chinese gentleman. I acquired it in Surabaya in 1996. . The third holder seems to be javanese and it may depict the Punakawan Bagong identified from his round eyes, big mouth, and short nose. Bagong is also wearing a hair bun, and there is a trace of a hair tuft on top of the head. Your comments and pics of other kris holders will be welcome. Regards Attached Images

18th October 2015, 02:04 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,019	Why do you think #3 is Javanese Jean?

18th October 2015, 09:22 AM	#3
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Hello Alan, From the style of the black sarong & belt and the carving which does not look like the balinese depictions of the punakawans, and it reminds me of some Loryo Blonyo statues from Central Java. Note the slim support also, contrary to the balinese kris holders. I bought it from a Dutch collector so I have no proven provenance and I am open to another opinion! Regards

18th October 2015, 12:11 PM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,019	Jean, I've never seen a figural keris holder used in Jawa, and the only figural ones from Jawa that I have seen were quite large and in the form of people in Javanese dress --- like that one in post #12. It is not impossible that this one of yours might be Jawa, but I must ask myself why it is that in over 40 years of doing the rounds in Jawa I've never seen a Jawa figural keris holder that had actually been made for sale in the open market.

18th October 2015, 04:50 PM	#5
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Hello Alan, I also do not remember to have seen a kris stand in Java during my visits so this one should be a museum piece! Its size is about the same as the one shown in post # 12. Regards

18th October 2015, 08:43 PM	#7
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Ouch, I just found that we already discussed this subject in the thread "Keris holder for comment" started on 23th June 2012 but I forgot it, sorry!